Finding the y-intercept of a Parabola: A Hint

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The discussion revolves around finding the y-intercept of the quadratic function y=3x^2-16x-12, which is a parabola. The original poster is attempting to graph the function by factoring and plotting its zeros but is uncertain about how to determine the y-intercept from their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding the y-intercept by evaluating the function at x=0. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between the vertex and the y-intercept, with some participants suggesting the use of completing the square as a method to find the vertex.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and clarifications about the vertex and y-intercept. There is acknowledgment of different methods, such as completing the square and using the formula -b/2a, but no consensus on the y-intercept has been reached yet.

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There is some confusion regarding the values being discussed, particularly the y-intercept and the vertex coordinates. Participants are also navigating the limitations of their prior knowledge and the resources available to them, such as tutoring support.

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I'm missing a step somewhere.

Without a calculator, graph y=3x^2-16x-12 by factoring and plotting zeros.

I have gotten as far as (x=-2/3) & (x=6) and know it's a parabola and pointing up because it has the positive x^2 so the graphing is easy enough, except...

The botb says the y-int is -100/3 but I can't find the bridge to get there in my notes or in the chapter.

a hint, please.

Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by Echo 6 Sierra
... The botb says the y-int is -100/3 but I can't find the bridge to get there in my notes or in the chapter.
Must be a misprint. The y-intercept is the point where the curve intersects the y-axis, in other words: the value of y where x=0. That value is certainly not y = -100/3.
 
Sorry, my error. The bottom coordinate of the parabola is
(8/3,-100/3), not the y-int.

Thank you for your prompt reply.

E6S
 
In other words, the vertex is at (8/3,-100/3).

You can find that by completing the square.
y=3x2-16x- 12= 3(x2- (16/3)x)- 12.
(16/3)/2= 8/3 and (8/3)2= 64/9
y= 3(x2- (16/3)x+ 64/9- 64/9)- 12
= 3(x2- (16/3)x+ 64/9)- 64/3- 12
= 3(x-8/3)2- 100/3

Now it is clear that when x= 8/3, y= -100/3. And that if x is any other number, then y= -100/3 plus something and so is higher. (8/3, -100/3) is the lowest point on the graph- the vertex.
 
I'm vaaaaaguely familiar with completing the square. It was briefly touched on in my trig class.

I understand that if x is any other number <,> 8/3 that it will follow the parabola and make the y value change to a number greater than -100/3. Thanks.

This afternoon, one of the schools free tutors showed me to use -b/2a. Where does this little gem come from?
 
It's for those who prefer memorizing formulas rather than thinking!

If y= ax2+ bx+ c, then y= a(x2+ (b/a)x)+ c.

Now, think "(b/a)/2= b/(2a) and that squared is b2/4a2" so we need to add b2/4a2 to complete the square:

y= a(x2+ (b/a)x+ b2/4a2-b2/4a2
= a(x2+ (b/a)x+ b2/4a2)- b2/4a+ c
= a(x+ b/(2a))2+ (c- b2/4a)

Now, we can see that, when x= -b/(2a), y= c- b2/4a. If x is any other number, the square is positive so y is larger. The vertex of the parabola (the lowest point) is at (-b/2a,c- b2/4a).

I think that completing the square is important enough that you should know how to do it, and practice it, without just memorizing that formula for the vertex.
 
Thanks Halls. Exam today, this should come in handy.

E6S
 

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