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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a perfectly elastic collision between two particles, P and Q, with initial speeds of 6 m/s and 0 m/s, respectively. Participants are tasked with finding the speed of Q after the impact and the impulse on Q.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy principles but expresses uncertainty about the coefficient of restitution. Some participants clarify that for a perfectly elastic collision, the coefficient is 1. Others provide examples of elastic collisions to aid understanding.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions about the masses of the particles and discussing the necessary equations for solving the problem. There is a recognition of the need for complete information in the problem statement.

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Some participants note the absence of mass information in the problem, which is crucial for applying the conservation laws effectively. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the setup and parameters of the collision.

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God i hate this damned topic >.<

Q. Two particles P and Q have speeds of 6m/s and 0m/s respectively. P directly collides with Q, the colision is perfectly elastic.

a) find the speed of Q directly after impact
b) find the impulse on Q

a)
so far i have worked out that using the law of conservation of momentum that

6 = X + 0.5Y

where x and y are the velocities of P and Q after the collision respectivly

however this is as far as i have got because to work out n e thing more i would need the coefficient of restitution

6 = E (X - Y)


b) would be easy given the velocity after :P
 
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e=1 for perfectly elastic Collision
 
perfectly elastic collision

examples of a perfectly elastic collision (although they can never truly happen) would be a tennis ball that returns to its initial height after it is dropped or 2 billiards balls that collide and they exchange velocities. this should help get you started.
 
BananaMan said:
God i hate this damned topic >.<

Q. Two particles P and Q have speeds of 6m/s and 0m/s respectively. P directly collides with Q, the colision is perfectly elastic.

a) find the speed of Q directly after impact
b) find the impulse on Q

a)
so far i have worked out that using the law of conservation of momentum that

6 = X + 0.5Y

where x and y are the velocities of P and Q after the collision respectivly

however this is as far as i have got because to work out n e thing more i would need the coefficient of restitution

6 = E (X - Y)


b) would be easy given the velocity after :P

We would appreciate it if you would include ALL of the information in a problem (better: quote it exactly) rather than making us guess. I take it from "6= X+ 0.5Y" that P has mass 1 kg and Q has mass 0.5 kg but I don't see that information anywhere in the problem. Since this is a "perfectly elastic" collision, you also have conservation of kinetic energy (same thing: the "coefficient of restitution" is 1). Assuming P has mass 1 kg and Q has mass 1/2 kg then the total kinetic energy (1/2)(1)(62)= (1/2)(1)X2+ (1/2)(1/2)Y2 or 36= X2+ (1/2)Y2. That equation, together with X+ (1/2)Y= 6 is enough to solve for X and Y.
 
HallsofIvy said:
We would appreciate it if you would include ALL of the information in a problem (better: quote it exactly) rather than making us guess. I take it from "6= X+ 0.5Y" that P has mass 1 kg and Q has mass 0.5 kg but I don't see that information anywhere in the problem. Since this is a "perfectly elastic" collision, you also have conservation of kinetic energy (same thing: the "coefficient of restitution" is 1). Assuming P has mass 1 kg and Q has mass 1/2 kg then the total kinetic energy (1/2)(1)(62)= (1/2)(1)X2+ (1/2)(1/2)Y2 or 36= X2+ (1/2)Y2. That equation, together with X+ (1/2)Y= 6 is enough to solve for X and Y.


sorry was sleepy wen i posted it

thanks helped loads :)
 

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