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Jul11-08, 08:34 PM
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Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
So, did anyone here participated in trying to decode the mysterious letter sent to Fermilab a few weeks ago?
Zz.
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Jul11-08, 09:26 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by ZapperZ
So, did anyone here participated in trying to decode the mysterious letter sent to Fermilab a few weeks ago?
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Here is the whole letter.
Perhaps the noise was made to look like symbols in the middle and the message looks like noise as the preamble/postamble?
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Jul11-08, 09:30 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Weird notches in an archaic language? This is a job for FORTRAN.
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Jul11-08, 09:39 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
The top and bottom just look like binary code with the spaces representing zeros.
Of course, if the person isn't very intelligent, what makes sense to them may not make sense at all. I wouldn't assume the sender is intelligent about code. And adding things that aren't there in order to create a message, I don't know.
But what do I know? Why even bother sending such a thing?
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Jul11-08, 09:44 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Now both of you are actually giving excellent clues ! 
Originally Posted by Evo
The top and bottom just look like binary code with the spaces representing zeros.
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It is ternary code and has been deciphered as such already. But what people might not have thought about is the concept of top and bottom !
Originally Posted by WarPhalange
Weird notches in an archaic language? This is a job for FORTRAN.
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I think it might be worth to give it a try ! Considering that it is very likely an insider...
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Jul11-08, 09:46 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by Evo
Of course, if the person isn't very intelligent, what makes sense to them may not make sense at all. I wouldn't assume the sender is intelligent.
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The top and bottom parts say
"FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE."
"EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN."
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The name is a not-very-well known fermilab physicist (now retired).
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Jul11-08, 09:50 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by humanino
The top and bottom parts say
The name is a not-very-well known fermilab physicist (now retired).
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Still probably some kid. Why would an older person send such a pointless message?
Didn't the article say the pesron that deciphered the message use base 3 and add to it?
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Jul11-08, 09:56 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by Evo
Still probably some kid. Why would an older person send such a pointless message?
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The top and bottom part making sense, there is a good deal of chance that physicists will want to figure out the rest of it, especially if it is difficult. So, since it must be an insider who knows about the retired guy, we have only two possibilities : either it is a very very bad joke and the middle is noise, or it actually makes sense and those guys will eventually figure it out. The sender must have knows that they would decipher the top and bottom easily. There remains a possibility that he is testing them, trying to see if they can make sense out of noise ! (that is, be fooled that there is sense, find one, but there really was not). Whatever, in any case, I think it is quite amusing.
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Jul11-08, 09:59 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by humanino
The top and bottom part making sense, there is a good deal of chance that physicists will want to figure out the rest of it, especially if it is difficult. So, since it must be an insider who knows about the retired guy, we have only two possibilities : either it is a very very bad joke and the middle is noise, or it actually makes sense and those guys will eventually figure it out. The sender must have knows that they would decipher the top and bottom easily. There remains a possibility that he is testing them, trying to see if they can make sense out of noise ! (that is, be fooled that there is sense, find one, but there really was not). Whatever, in any case, I think it is quite amusing.
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Yes, I see your point.
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Jul11-08, 10:04 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by Evo
Yes, I see your point.
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It is especially interesting that the bottom part says "basse 16", and the middle part has numbers and letters up to G attached, like in base 16. It might not be an error that "base" has been written with two "s".
Still being aware how silly this is, but not being ashamed to admitting having fun :crazy:
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Jul11-08, 10:11 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Maybe you'll be the one to solve it.
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Jul11-08, 10:14 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by Evo
Still probably some kid. Why would an older person send such a pointless message?
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What else do old people have to do? Kids don't go on their lawns anymore because of video games, so they have nobody to yell at.
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Jul11-08, 10:46 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by Evo
Maybe you'll be the one to solve it.
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You think too highly of me.  But we'll see, I wish !  jimmysnyder is very good in the brain teaser section, maybe he'll crack it first !
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Jul11-08, 10:58 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
My guess is that the first and third part would be deciphered easily, like humanino said--- and that its the code for deciphering the center part.
"FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE."
"EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN."
The 'BASSE' is the hint for the rest with the two letters, I'm guessing. --And maybe it was needed to emphasize or to place a needed 'S' in the taking of the words with double letters in them. 'L' 'E' 'E' 'S' 'E'----(nois'ee'mploy'ee')--
-and why would 'number' be separated from 'sixteen' ?----'employees base' --'number sixteen' ?
and they both could be anagrams to help decipher the center part
"EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN."
Money Experiment Useless, Babe
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Jul11-08, 11:10 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
It's a publicity stunt to get more cash from the government.
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Jul11-08, 11:36 PM
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Re: Mysterious Letter Sent To Fermilab
Originally Posted by WarPhalange
It's a publicity stunt to get more cash from the government.
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I agree with you..
Even if that's not the case, I wonder if curiosity should drive people this far.
That would just be a useless even when fully decrypted.
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