Subgroups-commutator, normal, Abelian

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The discussion focuses on the properties of the commutator subgroup [G,G] in group theory. It defines the commutator of elements g and h in a group G as [g,h] = gh(hg)-1 and establishes that [G,G] is generated by all such commutators. Participants explore the characteristics of elements in [G,G], the proof that [G,G] is a normal subgroup of G, and the conclusion that the quotient group G/[G,G] is Abelian. Key points include the necessity of understanding normal subgroups and the implications of commutativity in this context.

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Subgroups--commutator, normal, Abelian

Homework Statement


Let G be a group and g,h in G. Define the commutator of g and h as [g,h]= gh(hg)^-1. Then define the commutator subgroup, denoted [G,G], of G as the subgroup generated by all the commutators of elements of G, i.e. [G,G]=<{[g,h]: g,h in G}>.

(a) What does an element of [G,G] look like?
Hint: it is not enough to only consider elements of the form [g,h].

(b) Prove that [G,G] is a normal subgroup of G.

(c) Prove that G/[G,G] is an Abelian group.


The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Since [G,G] is cyclic, I thought an element would be of some form of [gh(hg)^-1]^n for some n in N. But the hint kind of threw me off...

(b) Initially I wanted to show that gh(hg)^-1 is mm^-1 but I have to show commutativity there and I don't know how to...so there must be another way? I can't seem to get started on this one...

(c) Is this just a consequence of part (b)? Since to show a subgroup is normal you need to use their cosets as an example.
 
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(a) [G,G] is not necessarily cyclic - it's generated by a set. I suggest you look up what this means.

(b) I don't understand what you're saying here. What's the definition of "normal subgroup"?

(c) It's a consequence of (b) that G/[G,G] is a group. Why is it an abelian one?
 


A normal subgroup is some H such that xH=Hx for x in G.
Equivalently, xhx^-1 is in H.
 


Right. Now use the definition to show that [G,G] is normal in G.
 


Well...that's my question here.

This is what I attempted:
Let H be a subgroup of G,
g,g-inverse in G
Then gh is in gH, and (g-inverse)(h-inverse) is in (g-inverse)H.
So then [g,h]=gh(g-inverse)(h-inverse)=gH(g-inverse)H=g(g-inverse)H=eH=H
(since the product of left cosets equals a left coset).

Is that correct? If not...any hints?

If it is right...then I have shown that an element of [G,G] looks like the subgroup H, and then all I need to do now is show xH=Hx?
 

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