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| Oct31-08, 12:43 PM | #1 |
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Can massless quarks form massive hadrons?
It is clear that the mass of the valence quarks is only a small fraction of the mass of the hadrons (for example, the proton).
However, I wonder if it would be possible to get massive protons in QCD if the quarks were truly massless. On one hand, for massless quarks, the pions, as Goldstone bosons of an exact Chiral symmetry, would be massless. On the other hand, the binding energy of any electron-positron bound state would vanish in the limit of zero electron(positron) mass. Is there some general argument to exclude in QCD finite masses for systems of masless quarks? In the case of glueballs (made of massless gluons), do they have finite mass? |
| Nov2-08, 10:30 AM | #2 |
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QCD is a funny theory - it exibits asymptotic freedom, and (presumably) there is a mechanism of "chiral symmetry breaking" that gives a vev to the quark bilinear of order a few hundred MeV. It is THIS scale that generates masses for the hadrons! This leads to a very amusing statement: if there were no Higgs at all, the W/Z bosons would be 1 GeV, NOT massless (this is a famous qualifying exam question for particle physicists looking to get a PhD!).
Of course, now you ask - where does this chiral symmetry breaking come from? Answer that, and you are on your way to winning $1,000,000 from the Clay Math Institute! So in answer to your question: the mass of the hadrons presumably comes from the (as yet not well understood) QCD dynamics that generate a mass gap - quark mass is a relatively small contribution compared to this. So yes: glueballs are massive. Proof of this will win you lots of $$ ;-) Hope this helps! |
| Nov3-08, 10:02 AM | #3 |
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What is a "vev" ? Why the W/Z bosons, which are associated to weak and electromagnetic interactions, should remain massive if there was no Higgs? What is the link between QCD and W/Z bosons? |
| Nov3-08, 10:32 AM | #4 |
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Can massless quarks form massive hadrons?So the short answer is: QCD has nothing to do with W/Z masses in the world that we live in. But it could have. |
| Nov10-08, 08:29 PM | #5 |
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vev is the vacum expectation value as mentioned before,but breaks the symmetry only when taking non zero value
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