Solving a Fields Exam Challenge: Calculating E Field & Energy Density

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The discussion revolves around a fields exam question concerning a long cylindrical co-axial capacitor. The original poster is tasked with showing a relationship for energy density based on a varying dielectric constant and determining the electric field as a function of voltage and geometric parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to use Gauss' Law to calculate the electric field and energy density but expresses uncertainty about the assumption of constant charge density. Some participants discuss the implications of charge density and symmetry in the capacitor setup. Others suggest calculating the electric field based on the surface charge density and the contributions from the inner conductor.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the electric field contributions and boundary conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between charge density and electric field, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or assumptions needed.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of specification regarding the charge density in the problem statement, which raises questions about the assumptions being made. There is also discussion about the nature of the boundaries and the behavior of electric displacement fields at these boundaries.

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Okay I've got a fields exam coming up so like a good boy I've been practising with past papers :wink: but there is this one question that is driving me batty :confused:

a) Consider a long cylindrical co-axial capacitor with inner conductor radius a, outer conductor radius b, and a dielectric constant that varies with cylindrical radius K(r). Show that for the energy density the dielectic to be constant, K(r) must equal k/r^2.

b) Given that the capacitor is charged to voltage V, determine the electric field E(r) as a expression of V, r, a and b.

Okay part a I can sort of do by calculating the E field based on Gauss' Law and subbing into the expression for energy density. However this approach requires that the charge density of the capacitor is constant throughout, which the question does not specify and seems a bit of a leap of faith.

part b I have no idea with, except it probably involves the boundary conditions of the E field and D.

Please help, this subject is starting to make quantum mechanics look easy :wink:
 
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Beer-monster said:
... the charge density of the capacitor is constant throughout, which the question does not specify and seems a bit of a leap of faith.
If you mean the surface charge density on a given cylinder, then the symmetry of the capacitor ensures it.




Beer-monster said:
b) Given that the capacitor is charged to voltage V, determine the electric field E(r) as a expression of V, r, a and b.
You can calculate the λ on the inner conductor from the V and C. Then, you can use the electric field for a line of charge in a dielectric to find the contribution from the inner conductor. Inside the capacitor and thus inside the outer conductor, what do you think the contribution to the E-field is and why?
 
Is the contribution to the E-field from the inner conductor the electric field that radiates outwards from the cylinder. This it would be the component that is normal to the boundary, then could I calculate an expression for e-field based on the discontinuity expression of the normal displacement D1n-D2n=sigma?
 
Beer-monster said:
Is the contribution to the E-field from the inner conductor the electric field that radiates outwards from the cylinder.
Yes.




Beer-monster said:
This it would be the component that is normal to the boundary, then could I calculate an expression for e-field based on the discontinuity expression of the normal displacement D1n-D2n=sigma?
What boundary? Both E and D terminate on a conductor (AFAIK), so I guess it's kind of a trivial boundary.
 
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