Alpha-particle scattering experiment

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The discussion revolves around Rutherford's alpha-particle scattering experiment, specifically how changes in the experimental setup—such as using a thicker foil, higher-energy alpha-particles, or a different material (silver instead of gold)—would affect the scattering results.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of using a thicker foil, questioning the absorption of alpha particles and the increase in deflection due to more atomic nuclei encounters. There is also speculation about the effects of higher-energy alpha particles on deflection angles, with some uncertainty expressed. Additionally, the differences between gold and silver foils are discussed, particularly regarding atomic number and resulting deflection.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the effects of the changes proposed, particularly regarding the thicker foil and the use of silver. However, there remains a lack of consensus on the implications of higher-energy alpha particles, and further clarification is sought by some participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the experiment while adhering to homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of their explorations. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying physics rather than arriving at definitive answers.

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I'm stuck with these questions. Please help if you can.

In Rutherford's experiment, alpha-particles were directed at a thin gold foil. A small fraction of the alpha-particles were back-scattered. Explain how this result would be affected if each of the following changes was (separately) made.
a) A thicker foil was used
b) Higher-energy alpha-particles were used.
c)A silver foil was used - the atomic number is less than that of gold.

c) is fine, I can do that. But a) and b) I seriously need help.

For a) I can thick of two things ...

1) alpha particles will get absorbed. If 1) is right, why is this?

2) because alpha particles will encounter more nucleus of more atoms, there will be more deflected alpha-particles.

For b) I have no idea. I'm guessing there will be more deflection but can't explain.
 
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a) more back scattering
b) more particles getting through, less deflection
 
Hi, thanks but may I ask why for b)?
 
MA103 said:
I'm stuck with these questions. Please help if you can.

In Rutherford's experiment, alpha-particles were directed at a thin gold foil. A small fraction of the alpha-particles were back-scattered. Explain how this result would be affected if each of the following changes was (separately) made.
a) A thicker foil was used
b) Higher-energy alpha-particles were used.
c)A silver foil was used - the atomic number is less than that of gold.

c) is fine, I can do that. But a) and b) I seriously need help.

For a) I can thick of two things ...

1) alpha particles will get absorbed. If 1) is right, why is this?

2) because alpha particles will encounter more nucleus of more atoms, there will be more deflected alpha-particles.

For b) I have no idea. I'm guessing there will be more deflection but can't explain.

The [itex]\alpha[/itex]-particles undergo hyperbolic trajectories when they pass nearby the positively charged gold nuclei. Increasing the thickness of the foil increases the probability of an [itex]\alpha[/itex]-particle experiencing a close encounter with an Au nucleus resulting in greater deflection angles. Higher energy particles possesses a larger component of velocity perpendicular to the foil so I'd say the deflection angle is reduced. Silver has a lower molar mass than gold, the weaker electric field exerts a weaker coulombic force on the [itex]\alpha[/itex]-particles resulting in decreased deflection angles.
 
Thanks for good explanation. :smile:
 
I'm the other way round, a) and b) i could do but c) i need help with!
What difference would it make if a silver foil was used instead of a gold one?
 

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