How Do You Calculate the Average Acceleration of a Dragster?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average acceleration of a dragster that reaches a top speed of 244 mi/h over a distance of 440 yd. The original poster attempts to compute the average acceleration assuming constant acceleration and using various kinematic equations.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the average velocity formula and question the validity of using it without knowing the average speed. They explore the relationship between distance, speed, and time, and question the source of a specific time value used in the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to approach the calculation. Some guidance has been provided regarding unit conversions and the application of kinematic equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or answer.

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There are uncertainties regarding the time required to achieve the final speed, as well as the potential for errors in the textbook's provided answer. Participants are also navigating the challenge of working through the problem without direct teacher support.

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A piston-engine dragster set a world record by starting from rest and hitting a top speed of 244 mi/h over a measured track of 440 yd. Compute its average acceleration in m/s^2.


I assumed the acceleration to be constant in order to find t using this formula : v_av = 1/2(v_i + v_f).
After that used this one : a= deltaV/deltaT.
My answer is 15 m/s^2 but the answer given in the textbook is 18 m/s^2.
What's wrong? My assumption?

Thanks
 
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I assumed the acceleration to be constant in order to find t using this formula : v_av = 1/2(v_i + v_f).

The speed is given to you in miles per hour. You need to convert this to meters per hour, then to meters per second. I'll assume you've done all this.

Your error comes in using the formula,
v_av = 1/2(v_i + v_f).

[tex]v(average) = \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

This only works if you know the average velocity. In this question, we only know the maximum velocity, not the average one.

You know the initial velocity (0), the maximum (or final) velocity and the distance. So use one of the equations of motions to find the acceleration. You don't even need to worry about the time if you use this one:

[tex]v^2 = u^2 + 2as[/tex]

where a=acceleration, v=final (maximum) velocity, u=initial velocity (0) and s=displacement in meters, not yards. Now you can work out your acceleration!

Hope this helped!

Andy
AMW Bonfire

P.S. If it still doesn't work, make sure you've converted all units to standard units, ie m/s and meters, etc.
 
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I followed what you said, but got the same answer :cry:
My answer was, as is now, 15 m/s^2 but the answer in the solutions manual is 18 m/s^2.
This the way that problem is solved in the book :

a_av= deltaV/deltaT = (244 * 0.4470 m/s) / ( 6.2 s) = 18 m/s^2 .

Where the heck the 6.2 s comes from ?
 
Hm... where did the "delta time" come into it?

I'm honestly not sure. Can anyone else help with this?

Andy
AMW Bonfire
 
"delta time" means "change in time" and here is the time from start to finish of the race. That's not given but you can calculate it. Assuming a constant acceleration for the entire race, since the initial speed was 0 and final speed 244 mph, the "average" speed was 122 mph. 440 yards is 1/4 mile so the time required to go 0.25 miles at an average speed of 122 mph is 0.25/122= 0.00204918 hours which is (multiply by 3600) 7.377 seconds. Hmm, that is NOT "6.2 seconds".

There are 1609 meters per mile, approximately. That means one "mile per hour" is 1609 "meters per hour" and 244 mph is 392596 meters per hour or (dividing by 3600 seconds in an hour) 109 meters per second. To go from 0 to 109 meters per second in 7.4 seconds requires an acceleration of approximately 15 m/s2, just as you got initially. There may be an error in the book- check with your teacher on this one.
 
HallsofIvy said:
There may be an error in the book- check with your teacher on this one.

I'm reading physics on my own, there is no teacher to check with.
PF is the only place to ask my questions.
Thank you very much amwbonfire and HallsofIvy
 
HallsofIvy said:
"delta time" means "change in time" and here is the time from start to finish of the race. That's not given but you can calculate it.

Sorry, I misworded my question. I understood how to calculate the change in t, but I didn't understand why it is a requirement to work out the answer. Of course, I see now there are multiple ways of solving the problem. Thanks! :smile:

I'm reading physics on my own, there is no teacher to check with.
PF is the only place to ask my questions.

That explains why you ask a lot of questions. :wink: The people on PF are always friendly enough to help though. Keep asking away! After all, he who asks is a fool for five minutes, he who does not is a fool forever.

Andy
AMW Bonfire
 

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