Express (log n)^(log n) as a power of n,

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The discussion focuses on expressing (log n)^(log n) as a power of n, specifically demonstrating that log(n)^(log(n)) equals n^(log(log(n))). This relationship is crucial for proving the convergence of the series ∑1/(log n)^(log n). Participants clarify that f(n) = log(log(n)) is the correct interpretation, while misconceptions about f(n) equating to n are addressed. The conversation emphasizes the importance of logarithmic identities in understanding convergence behavior.

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Homework Statement



Express (log n)^(log n) as a power of n, and use the result to show ∑1/(log n)^(log n) is convergent.

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I've heard of an alternative way to express ln(n), so I cannot get started.
 
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Way I just did it was...

n^{f(n)} = \log(n)^{\log(n)}

take log of both sidesf(n) \log(n) = \log(n) \log(\log(n))

And f(n) is pretty obvious from this line.
 
Deadstar said:
Way I just did it was...

n^{f(n)} = \log(n)^{\log(n)}

take log of both sides


f(n) \log(n) = \log(n) \log(\log(n))

And f(n) is pretty obvious from this line.

f(n) = n ?
 
What do you get if you divide both sides of Deadstar's last equation by log(n)?
 
Petek said:
What do you get if you divide both sides of Deadstar's last equation by log(n)?

You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

That isn't right.. check your work
 
Why would n=log(log(n))?
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

Perhaps you're thinking of exp(log(n)) or log(exp(n))?
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

f(n)=log(log(n)) is correct. log(log(n))=n is complete baloney. I don't know why you'd even say that. If you'd been paying any attention to Deadstar you'd now have log(n)^log(n)=n^(log(log(n))). That really ought to tell you something pretty quickly about the convergence question.
 
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ln(ln(X)) IS NOT X.

you were thinking of:
ln(exp(x)) = exp(ln(x)) = x
 
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We have:
\log(n)^{\log(n)}=(e^{\log(\log(n))})^{\log(n)}=(e^{\log(n)})^{\log(\log(n)}=n^{\log(\log(n)}
 

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