Express (log n)^(log n) as a power of n,

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The problem involves expressing \((\log n)^{\log n}\) as a power of \(n\) and using this expression to analyze the convergence of the series \(\sum \frac{1}{(\log n)^{\log n}}\). The subject area includes logarithmic functions and series convergence.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss different methods to express \((\log n)^{\log n}\) in terms of \(n\), including taking logarithms of both sides. There are questions about the validity of certain transformations and assumptions regarding the relationships between \(f(n)\) and \(n\).

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants exploring different interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of logarithmic expressions, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct form or interpretation of \(f(n)\).

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There are indications of confusion regarding the relationships between logarithmic and exponential functions, as well as the implications for convergence. Participants are questioning assumptions made in previous posts.

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Homework Statement



Express (log n)^(log n) as a power of n, and use the result to show ∑1/(log n)^(log n) is convergent.

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I've heard of an alternative way to express ln(n), so I cannot get started.
 
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Way I just did it was...

n^{f(n)} = \log(n)^{\log(n)}

take log of both sidesf(n) \log(n) = \log(n) \log(\log(n))

And f(n) is pretty obvious from this line.
 
Deadstar said:
Way I just did it was...

n^{f(n)} = \log(n)^{\log(n)}

take log of both sides


f(n) \log(n) = \log(n) \log(\log(n))

And f(n) is pretty obvious from this line.

f(n) = n ?
 
What do you get if you divide both sides of Deadstar's last equation by log(n)?
 
Petek said:
What do you get if you divide both sides of Deadstar's last equation by log(n)?

You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

That isn't right.. check your work
 
Why would n=log(log(n))?
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

Perhaps you're thinking of exp(log(n)) or log(exp(n))?
 
Jamin2112 said:
You get f(n) = log(log n), which is equal to n.

f(n)=log(log(n)) is correct. log(log(n))=n is complete baloney. I don't know why you'd even say that. If you'd been paying any attention to Deadstar you'd now have log(n)^log(n)=n^(log(log(n))). That really ought to tell you something pretty quickly about the convergence question.
 
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ln(ln(X)) IS NOT X.

you were thinking of:
ln(exp(x)) = exp(ln(x)) = x
 
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We have:
\log(n)^{\log(n)}=(e^{\log(\log(n))})^{\log(n)}=(e^{\log(n)})^{\log(\log(n)}=n^{\log(\log(n)}
 

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