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| Dec7-10, 12:49 PM | #1 |
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time independent operators and Heisenberg eq - paradox?
Suppose we have time-dependent operator [tex]a(t)[/tex] with the equal-time commutator
[tex][a(t),a^{\dag}(t)]=1[/tex] and in particular [tex][a(0),a^{\dag}(0)]=1[/tex] with Hamiltonian [tex]H=\hbar \omega(a^\dag a+1/2)[/tex] The Heisenberg equation of motion [tex]\frac{da}{dt}=\frac{i}{\hbar}[H,a]=-i\omega a[/tex] implies that [tex]a(t)=a_0e^{-i\omega t}[/tex] where [tex]a_0[/tex] is a constant operator. Thus [tex]a^\dag a=e^{+i\omega t}a^\dag_0 a_0 e^{-i\omega t}=a^\dag_0 a_0[/tex] and so [tex]H(t)=\hbar \omega(a^\dag_0 a_0+1/2)[/tex] for all times. Since [tex]a_0=a(0)[/tex], [tex][a_0,a^{\dag}_0]=1[/tex] means that [tex]\frac{i}{\hbar}[H(t),a_0]=-i\omega a_0[/tex] for all times. But this it so say that [tex]\frac{da_0}{dt}=-i\omega a_0\neq 0[/tex] contradicting that a_0 is a constant. Where did I go wrong? |
| Dec7-10, 01:20 PM | #2 |
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First, your Heisenberg equation is not quite correct. It should be
[tex] \frac{dA}{dt}=\frac{i}{\hbar}[H,A]+ \frac{\partial A}{\partial t} [/tex] where the last term accounts for any explicit time dependence in the definition of the operator [itex]A=A(q,p,t)[/itex], where [itex]q[/itex] and [itex]p[/itex] are the canonical coordinates and momenta. Then, we have [itex]a=(m\omega/2\hbar)^{1/2}(q+ip/m\omega)[/itex]. This has no explicit time dependence, so [itex]{\partial a}/{\partial t}=0[/itex]. But now [itex]a_0=e^{+i\omega t}a[/itex]. And this does have explicit time dependence. So if you plug it into the corrected Heisenberg equation, you will find [itex]da_0/dt=0[/itex]. |
| Dec7-10, 03:24 PM | #3 |
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I think I see that. Thanks.
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| Dec8-10, 02:49 AM | #4 |
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time independent operators and Heisenberg eq - paradox?
Isn't it just a trivial mistake in elementary calculus? I mean
[tex] \frac{df(0)}{dt}=0[/tex] but [tex] \frac{df(t)}{dt}|_{t=0} \neq 0[/tex] |
| Dec8-10, 04:10 PM | #5 |
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Well, yes, that is just what I thought. But the way the time dependent factors cancel in the Hamiltonian, and since the time-dependent factors are c-numbers so the commutator is all in the constant operators a_0, it as actually the constant operators which have the non-zero commutator with the Hamiltonian, not just that it is true at t=0. Hence my question. |
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