What are the current hot issues in the standard cosmological model?

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The discussion centers on current issues within the standard cosmological model, touching on both conceptual and technical aspects. Participants explore various topics including the empirical Hubble law, dark matter's role in structure formation, and Big Bang nucleosynthesis (BBN), while also reflecting on historical contributions to cosmology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a paper that discusses both conceptual and technical foundations of the standard cosmological model, highlighting unresolved issues.
  • There is mention of the empirical Hubble law, with some participants noting their unfamiliarity with the equation relating redshift to luminosity distance.
  • One participant expresses interest in how dark matter contributed to structure formation in the early universe, indicating a personal unease with the concept but acknowledging its compelling nature.
  • Discussion includes the complexities of measuring recession velocities and distances to galaxies, with references to the challenges of empirical measurement and the use of standard candles.
  • Participants reflect on the treatment of Big Bang nucleosynthesis in the literature, particularly regarding the deuterium bottleneck and Hoyle's contributions to heavy element production.
  • There is a debate regarding Fred Hoyle's legacy, with differing views on his association with the Steady State model and its impact on his reputation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement on various points, particularly regarding the interpretation of historical contributions and the implications of dark matter. No consensus is reached on the complexities of measuring cosmological distances or the legacy of Fred Hoyle.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in empirical measurements of recession velocities and distances, as well as the assumptions underlying the relationships between redshift and distance. There is also mention of unresolved mathematical steps in the discussion of BBN.

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If interested in a current overview of the standard cosmological model try
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0409280
This paper gives a mix of both the conceptual and technical foundations of modern theory and addresses a number of hot issues that remain unsolved. A good read for all levels of expertise.
 
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I didn't know the empirical Hubble law (equation 10):
z=H*L
where L is luminosity distance
although i knew the more familiar Hubble law
v=H*d
 
I didnt't know that either. It was quite interesting. One thing I found particularly interesting was the discussion on how DM broke free from the early universe and facilitated structure formation in the early universe. I have often been uneasy with dark matter, but, that makes a pretty compelling case for it.
 
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meteor said:
I didn't know the empirical Hubble law (equation 10):
z=H*L
where L is luminosity distance
although i knew the more familiar Hubble law
v=H*d
z, of course, is what you measure from the spectra of distant objects; converting it to a 'recession speed' is simple, and (AFAIK) in the early days papers gave a 'recession velocity' (z came later). L and d are more subtle - as Maroto and Ramírez point out, "neither the recession velocities nor the physical emission distances to galaxies are empirically measurable"; what we actually observe is an apparent magnitude (luminosity), and we convert to a 'distance' from an estimated absolute magnitude (the 'standard candle').
 
The section treating BBN is quite interesting. It has cleared me some doubts that i had about the deuterium bottleneck, and is always great to remember how Hoyle solved the puzzle of the production of heavy elements with his "triple alpha process". Hoyle was a great astrophysicist. I'm afraid that his involvement in the Steady State model has always been like a dark shadow over his career
 
Nereid said:
z, of course, is what you measure from the spectra of distant objects; converting it to a 'recession speed' is simple, and (AFAIK) in the early days papers gave a 'recession velocity' (z came later). L and d are more subtle - as Maroto and Ramírez point out, "neither the recession velocities nor the physical emission distances to galaxies are empirically measurable"; what we actually observe is an apparent magnitude (luminosity), and we convert to a 'distance' from an estimated absolute magnitude (the 'standard candle').
When they give the redshift as a function of the scale factor, is this the same as saying that early photons had to climb out of a deeper gravitational well because the universe was more dense back then? I'm not sure whether they are assuming a linear relationship between redshift and distance. Thanks.
 
meteor said:
The section treating BBN is quite interesting. It has cleared me some doubts that i had about the deuterium bottleneck, and is always great to remember how Hoyle solved the puzzle of the production of heavy elements with his "triple alpha process". Hoyle was a great astrophysicist. I'm afraid that his involvement in the Steady State model has always been like a dark shadow over his career
Fred Hoyle was a fine physicist. His attachment to the steady state model was quite reasonable given the observational evidence at the time. I never considered that a stain on his reputation.
 

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