Work Done by the Gravitational Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving work done by gravitational force on a block of ice sliding down a frictionless ramp while being pulled by a worker. The scenario includes calculating the change in kinetic energy based on the forces acting on the block and the distance moved along the ramp.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of work done, questioning the application of force components and the impact of the pulling force on kinetic energy. There is a focus on understanding how to correctly apply the work-energy principle in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding their calculations and the application of concepts, while others provide clarifications about the relationship between force, distance, and work. There is an acknowledgment of misunderstanding, with one participant indicating a shift in their understanding after receiving feedback.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector components in work calculations and the implications of external forces on energy changes. The problem is set within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration.

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I can not figure out what I am doing wrong for this problem. Right now I have Wt = 60*.3*cos(50) = 12 J. If that is taken away, then it should be a 12 J difference right?

In Figure 7-33, a block of ice slides down a frictionless ramp at angle = 50°, while an ice worker pulls up the ramp (via a rope) with a force of magnitude Fr = 60 N. As the block slides through distance d = 0.30 m along the ramp, its kinetic energy increases by 80 J. How much greater would its kinetic energy have been if the rope had not been attached to the block?

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Work = Force * distance

Remember, you only need to multiply stuff by the cos (angle) or sin (angle) to get that component of force so it matches up with movement.

In this case, the 60 N applied in the opposite direction as the movement...so you don't need to find any of its components.

Simply, you would have a force of 60 N, and a distance of .30 m. With this info, you can easily find the energy.
 
AtlBraves said:
I can not figure out what I am doing wrong for this problem. Right now I have Wt = 60*.3*cos(50) = 12 J. If that is taken away, then it should be a 12 J difference right?
The force and the displacement are both parallel to the surface of the ramp.
 
I made that problem much harder than I should have. I understand now. Thanks for the help.
 

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