Quadratic Formula: Negative in root?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a negative discriminant in the context of solving quadratic equations, specifically when evaluating the expression √(b² - 4ac). Participants explore the nature of roots in quadratic equations, particularly focusing on the case where the discriminant is negative.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of a negative discriminant and its implications for the existence of real roots. Questions are raised about the understanding of complex numbers and their relevance in this context. Some participants inquire about the original problem setup and whether numerical errors might have occurred.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of complex numbers and their relationship to quadratic equations. There is a recognition that negative discriminants indicate the absence of real roots, and some guidance is offered regarding the interpretation of these results in relation to graphing and factoring.

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Some participants note that the original poster may not have encountered complex numbers yet, which could affect their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of the potential for numerical errors in the original equation setup.

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What do you do when Root(b^2-4ac) is negative? because you can't have a negative under a root right?
 
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If the discriminant is negative then the quadratic equation has no real valued roots. However, in some applications defining the square root of a negative number is very useful. Such numbers are called "imaginary" or "complex" numbers. If you haven't learned about them yet then it's possible you made a numerical error (I am assuming this is from a school assignment).
 
The quadratic has no real roots, meaning that there are no real numbers that satisfy the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0. The roots are complex numbers. Have you encountered complex numbers before? In general, a complex number z can be expressed as a combination of a real and an imaginary number: z = a + bi, which makes sense because imaginary numbers are numbers that, when squared, yield a negative real number. They are multiples of the imaginary number i, which is defined as follows:

[tex]i = \sqrt{-1}[/tex]

However, if you have encountered your negative discriminant in a quadratic whose solution represents some physical situation, then you have made an error, because the solution must be real. (It is a "real" situation after all, "imaginary" numbers have no place.)

Edit: oops...that's exactly what Tide posted...I guess just while I was composing this :redface:
 
well i was trying to factor and find roots for x^2-2x+4=0, then i get a negative under the root.
 
Then you should get something like this if you factor over the complex numbers.

[tex]x^2 - 2x + 4 = \left(x - 1 + i \sqrt 3\right) \left(x - 1 - i \sqrt 3\right)[/tex]

If that doesn't mean anything to you then go back and be sure you are doing the right problem!
 
If you haven't seen complex numbers yet, your question could still be fine. Negative under the root just means there are no real roots and your polynomial cannot be factored (over the real numbers). Not every equation will have solutions, "no real roots" is an acceptible response.

It might be a good idea to see what it means in terms of the graph to have no real roots. To make this easier, you can complete the square [tex]x^2-2x+4=(x-1)^2+3[/tex] and see it's just a shift of the plain old [tex]x^2[/tex] graph.
 

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