Radical Experientialism Scrapped: My Last Post

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "radical experientialism" and the definitions and implications of personal knowledge and experience. Participants explore the relationship between personal experience, knowledge, and mental processes, as well as the challenges in articulating these ideas clearly.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines personal knowledge as information from reality that stimulates consciousness and questions whether this definition adequately distinguishes between personal experience and personal knowledge.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the relationship between personal knowing and mentality, suggesting that personal knowledge should be seen as foundational to mental processes.
  • Concerns are raised about the claim that personal knowing is diminished during thought processes, with questions about the nature of this experience and its implications for radical experientialism.
  • A participant reflects on their own experience, suggesting that a quieter mind enhances the experience of the present.
  • One participant acknowledges errors in their initial post and expresses a desire to refine their logic and definitions in future discussions.
  • Another participant ultimately decides to scrap the thread, indicating a lack of clarity in their original message but expressing a commitment to revisit the topic later.

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Participants express confusion and disagreement regarding the definitions and relationships between personal experience and knowledge. There is no consensus on the clarity of the concepts discussed, and multiple viewpoints are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the definitions provided and the participants' understanding of the concepts. There are unresolved questions about the implications of personal experience on mental processes and the overall coherence of the arguments presented.

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Scrapped :redface: . . . see my last post.
 
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I'm sorry I tried... but I got totally lost...

:confused:A minor point first...

Les Sleeth said:
Part One - Definitions

Personal Knowledge defined: Information from reality directly stimulating consciousness that is personally sensed, experienced and retained by consciousness.

Shouldn’t this say "past information…………retained and cecalled by conciousness", otherwise I don't see a diference between your personal experience and your personal knowledge definition


Then the important part ... this is how I got lost... :confused:
Les Sleeth said:
Part Three – Conclusion

While overall personal knowing can benefit from the peripheral assistance of mentality (depending on the quality of it),
How is this... since personal knowing is that which is retained, isn't this the other way around like you state in the next sentence
Les Sleeth said:
because mentality relies on and is conditioned by past experience,
past experience = personal knowledge
Les Sleeth said:
it means the experience of the present is weakened.
when is this weakened and which part does it refer to?? :frown:

Les Sleeth said:
Consequently, during the actual moments of thought processes, the experience of personal knowing is diminished.
Lost again... is experience of personal knowing the same as personal knowing ?? otherwise this one's new in the equation.
Les Sleeth said:
Therefore, for the practice of radical experientialism, one maintains personal experience as the first priority of consciousness. For mental operations, one relies on the experiential classes as much as possible, and returns to the personal experience of the present as soon as possible after thinking.
I think I get this part, but It will come as no surprise that I have no idea how to handle this...:
Les Sleeth said:
The claim is, the more fully a human experiences the present, the deeper one's personal experience of knowing.
:rolleyes:

Les Sleeth said:
(NOTE:Adding my own personal experience to that I’d say, the more quiet the mind, the greater the experience of the present.)

Loud and clear, won't agrue that... there's only a limited amount of information that can be handeled by our neuronal processor at the same time :biggrin:
 
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Sho'Nuff said:
Shouldn’t this say "past information…………retained and recalled by consciousness", otherwise I don't see a difference between your personal experience and your personal knowledge definition

You are correct about almost everything. I'd worked on this throughout the weekend and decided to post while I was tired. Sorry, everyone, the concept is not ready for publication. :frown:

However, I am still have high confidence in my overall premise, so let me fix the logic and definitions so it makes sense (tomorrow though, my brain is shot now).
 
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I decided it was best to scrap this thread. :redface: Sorry everyone, I know what I meant to say, but I missed it by a mile. :cry: I'll try again in the near future for those who are interested. It's something I believe and practice, so I am pretty sure I can make sense. :-p
 

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