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| Mar16-05, 11:53 AM | #1 |
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Is this irreducible?
Hi,
I need to figure out whether or not the polynomial [tex]x^6-2x^3-1[/tex] is irreducible (over Q). I don't think Eisenstein works in this case, and performing modulo 2 on this i get [tex]x^6-1[/tex] which is reducible over F2. Any ideas? Incidently, if i let y=x^3, then i get [tex]y^2-2y -1[/tex] which is irreducible over Q.....but i'm not sure if that means anything about the original polynomial. |
| Mar16-05, 01:19 PM | #2 |
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Sure enough, Eisenstein doesn't work as there is no prime [tex] p[/tex] such that [tex] p\mid -1[/tex]. However if you reduce modulo 3, you get (i hope)
[tex] x^6-[2]x^3-[1] = x^6+[-2]x^3+[-1] = x^6+x^3+[2][/tex] and this polynomial in [tex] Z_2[x][/tex] seems to be irreducible (at a first try I couldn't factor it in 2 polynomials of smaller degree, but you can try yourself). So if that polynomial is irreducible in [tex] Z_2[x][/tex] then [tex]x^6-2x^3-1[/tex] is irreducible in [tex] Q[x][/tex]. |
| Mar17-05, 10:55 AM | #3 |
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Hmm..okay. I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to brute force hehe
OK, so I have shown that the polynomial [tex] x^6+x^3+2[/tex] has no linear or quadratic factors over F3, but how did you show it can't factor into cubic terms? I don't really know the irreducible cubic polynomials over F3, and it seems like there might be quite a few of them? |
| Mar17-05, 11:33 AM | #4 |
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Is this irreducible?Sorry, I don't have anything quicker to offer. |
| Mar17-05, 08:46 PM | #5 |
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Yes, great, thanks for the tip. After a little tedious work, it turns out that it is irreducible over F3, so my original polynomial was irreducible over Q. Yay, thanks a lot
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