Could Our Universe Be Inside a Giant Black Hole?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothesis that our universe could be situated within a gigantic black hole, which may be influencing its expansion and contraction. Participants explore concepts related to black holes, curved space, and the nature of the universe, with a focus on theoretical implications rather than established facts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that a gigantic black hole could be shrinking the universe, leading to a cycle of contraction and expansion, which might explain the concept of infinity.
  • Another participant suggests that the universe might be at the center of a much larger structure, which challenges conventional views about the universe's boundaries.
  • A different participant shares an analogy involving bubbles in water to illustrate curved space, although the connection to black holes is questioned by others.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the viability of the black hole hypothesis and indicate that similar ideas have been previously discussed.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of the black hole hypothesis and its implications for the nature of the universe. There is no consensus on the correctness of the ideas presented, and some participants challenge each other's claims without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Some arguments rely on assumptions about the nature of the universe and black holes that are not fully articulated. The discussion includes speculative ideas that have not been formally established or widely accepted in the scientific community.

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lately i have been thinking of an hypothesis about black holes..
it is not completely on the Bh's level
but includes a higher level..
a universal level..

Is there a probability of a gigantic black hole that envelopes our universe and is shrinking it?
and that could explain the notion of inifinity...
let's stay the whole universe is being shrunk by this gigantic BH,
therefore it ends up by a point..
afterwards.. when it has concentrated all of the existing mass.. it divulges and expand..
this could explain the theory of expansion and contraction..
let's say if we are now expanding..
it will have a spherical motion.. the force diffused from the black hole is expanded towards a south gravitational field and then pulled north where it is contracted..

well it is very difficult to explain for me since i am still a 17 year old senior student at high school..
but maybe an illustration can help me..
i need some materials..
it's not now in my hands..
thus, i will wait

Joe
 
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true, i like the way you discuss stuff :P. On to the curved space bit. I was in the bath the other day when i noticed something, a way to show curved space was right under my right arm. A single bubble floating on the surface, and i noticed something, it created a dent in the water (obviously not very big) but when it came close to smaller bubbles they connected and started to spin around the bigger bubble. i thought it was a great way to show it in a nice and easy way, but its really good to see it happen yourself even if it is just in the bath with some bubbles.
 
A_I_ said:
Is there a probability of a gigantic black hole that envelopes our universe and is shrinking it?

Actually i have already discussed this and i believe someone else has already theorized this. My own thinking is that we are thinking too small about the center of the universe and actually we are inside the center, it is just so big we can't see the edge of the middle yet.
 
well i guess that bubble sliding is due to forces of friction on the sphere (big bubble).. i didn't understand how did u relate BHs to your observation?
 
i said at the start i wanted to discuss black holes and curved space, that was on curved space.
 
ok now i understand what you have meant;
but if u suggest that we are in the center of the universe
otherwise said: "the universe defined by our theories constitute only a center of i don't know what"
are you trying to say that it infinite?
because in what i have theorized (i didn't read it anywhere)
i didn't say it is infinite
 
no, i said that your theory has already been done, the theory i then listed afterwards is my own and nothing to do with your black hole theory, i don't think that your theory works myself but i could be wrong.
 

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