Kinetic Energy Lost in Crumple Zones

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to crumple zones in vehicles, specifically focusing on the energy lost during a collision between a car and a wall. Participants are exploring the concepts of kinetic energy and its transformation during such impacts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how to calculate the car's kinetic energy before and after the collision, as well as what happens to the energy that is not accounted for post-impact. There are discussions about the necessity of knowing the car's mass after the collision and whether the car must continue moving after hitting the wall.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants raising questions about the assumptions related to kinetic energy and the role of crumple zones. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of mass in energy calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations of energy loss.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of energy conservation and transformation in the context of a collision, with some uncertainty about the assumptions regarding the car's motion and mass after impact.

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Hi guys, i am working on a problem involving crumple zones, and i was wondering which formula would be best suited to discover the amount of energy lost due to heat and sound, during a collision between a car and a wall
 
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What was the car's initial kinetic energy? What is the car's kinetic energy after the collision? What do you think happened to all the missing energy?
 
how do i work out the cars kenetic energy after the impact if its only hitting a wall, do i make an assumption about its mass after the impact or am i able to work it out and is the mass after the impact even necessary
 
Hint: How fast is the car going after its collision with the wall?
 
id say 0, I am assuming all of the kinetic energy is absorbed by the wall, is that possible or does the car have to continue moving ?
 
"id say 0, I am assuming all of the kinetic energy is absorbed by the wall, is that possible or does the car have to continue moving ?"

It's not only possible, it's certain. The whole point of a "crumple zone" is to stop the car!

You also asked "do i make an assumption about its mass after the impact or am i able to work it out and is the mass after the impact even necessary?"

Yes, the mass after the impact is necessary since kinetic energy = (1/2)m v2. Even if the car fell apart, you would still use the entire car in the calculation! Why would its mass change at all?

So: you know the car's speed and mass and therefore kinetic energy before the collision. You know the car's speed and mass and therefore kinetic energy after the collision. What happened to the energy the car lost?
 

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