The next generation of MACINTOSH:

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The discussion revolves around opinions and experiences regarding Macintosh computers, particularly in a school setting. Participants express their views on usability, performance, and preferences compared to other operating systems, particularly Windows and Linux. The conversation includes both personal anecdotes and technical critiques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express strong dissatisfaction with Macintosh computers, citing issues such as outdated hardware, slow startup times, and a lack of user-friendly features compared to Windows.
  • Others defend Macs, arguing that the problems may stem from the age of the machines rather than the operating system itself, and highlight the efficiency of Mac systems when properly maintained.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited options and preferences available on Macs, suggesting that they may not cater to users who prefer customization.
  • Participants discuss the differences in user interface design, such as the application button and the method of quitting applications, with some finding Mac's approach less intuitive.
  • There are mentions of a transition from Macs to Dells in a school setting, indicating a broader dissatisfaction with the Macs in use.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the merits and usability of Macintosh computers, with some defending their functionality and others criticizing them. No consensus is reached regarding the overall effectiveness of Macs versus other systems.

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Limitations in the discussion include the age of the hardware being used, which may affect performance, and the specific versions of software available on the Macs, which are noted to be outdated. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific models being discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering the purchase of Macintosh computers, those involved in educational technology decisions, or users comparing different operating systems.

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I give to you, the apple iSuck:

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If Apple sucks, then Windows must be butt numbing diahria.
 
you obviously have nevr tried the crapintoshes they have at my school
 
I use a Mac and have no problems at all. Don't know what problem you have other than maybe you just don't know how to use it (you don't have to click on "start" to shut down, so maybe you're not used to something that makes sense :biggrin:).

I just started my first day in a very PC dominated department. I wonder how long before I get converts? I wonder if I can at least convert the IT guy to Linux...I so don't want to have to use Windows. He was showing me the website with all the free downloads here...all that stuff you need to keep spyware and adware off those windows systems. :smile: Though, it did take some hunting to find out the information he needed to set up my computer on their intranet, but it wasn't too bad.
 
Everyone at my school, the teachers, students, we all hate them. We have this Macintosh lab that hasn't been used since last year. we're replacing them all with Dells.
 
What kind do you have and what OS do they run? Why do you hate them?
 
I'm not sure of the exact kind, but it's a kind of iMac

I hate them (1) because they've been there for about 6 years. (2) I think it is unnecesary to have the application button, when windows simply displays the minimized windows at the bottom of the screen. (3) Our school has some very old versions of microsoft office (I know, not mac's fault) (4) to completely exit a program, I connot simply click "X" I have to go to file>quit (5) It takes sooooooo long to start up.
 
yomamma said:
I'm not sure of the exact kind, but it's a kind of iMac

I hate them (1) because they've been there for about 6 years. (2) I think it is unnecesary to have the application button, when windows simply displays the minimized windows at the bottom of the screen. (3) Our school has some very old versions of microsoft office (I know, not mac's fault) (4) to completely exit a program, I connot simply click "X" I have to go to file>quit (5) It takes sooooooo long to start up.
What do you mean application button? On macs, the minimized screen is just in that dock at the bottom of the screen (it might be set to hide to keep the screen clear, in which case you just mouse over it for it to appear). I can't help you with office, that's a microsoft product. You don't have to go to file>quit, just hit cmd (that's the key with the apple on it)-Q. It shouldn't take long to start up, or at least no longer than a 6 year old PC would. The age is a factor there...you're just used to something much newer. They might also have anti-virus software running on startup that is slowing things down. For comparison, my approximately 6 yr old PC doesn't even run anymore (well, it does when I open it up, pop in the card that keeps coming loose, and then wait all day for it to boot up...it runs windows 95...I thought it was 2000 until I turned it on recently to back up some old files I was afraid of losing for good with the current move, but a similar age mac runs quite considerably better). They probably only have G3 processors if they are that old, so, really, it's not mac that's the problem, but the age of the computer and the limitations to what was available at the time.
 
yomamma said:
Everyone at my school, the teachers, students, we all hate them. We have this Macintosh lab that hasn't been used since last year. we're replacing them all with Dells.
DUUUUUDE! You're gettin' a dell!

(srry couldn't resist :approve: )
 
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I would like to have a mac, but they are expensive, and the cheap one are worse than my current computer.
 
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Moonbear said:
What kind do you have and what OS do they run? Why do you hate them?

I hate them for the lack of options and preferences. Most things have nearly no options on macs. I guess if you like exactly the way it's set up, then macs are for you...
 
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Moonbear said:
What do you mean application button? On macs, the minimized screen is just in that dock at the bottom of the screen (it might be set to hide to keep the screen clear, in which case you just mouse over it for it to appear). I can't help you with office, that's a microsoft product. You don't have to go to file>quit, just hit cmd (that's the key with the apple on it)-Q. It shouldn't take long to start up, or at least no longer than a 6 year old PC would. The age is a factor there...you're just used to something much newer. They might also have anti-virus software running on startup that is slowing things down. For comparison, my approximately 6 yr old PC doesn't even run anymore (well, it does when I open it up, pop in the card that keeps coming loose, and then wait all day for it to boot up...it runs windows 95...I thought it was 2000 until I turned it on recently to back up some old files I was afraid of losing for good with the current move, but a similar age mac runs quite considerably better). They probably only have G3 processors if they are that old, so, really, it's not mac that's the problem, but the age of the computer and the limitations to what was available at the time.
On our macs, we have an application button at the top-right corner of the screen.
 

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