Most Hard-Driving Music?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "hard-driving music," exploring various interpretations, genres, and examples of music that participants believe fit this description. The scope includes subjective definitions, personal preferences, and references to different music styles such as death metal, grindcore, classical, and electronic music.

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  • Some participants suggest that "hard-driving" music is characterized by intensity, speed, aggression, and chaos.
  • Others express uncertainty about the term "hard driving," with some indicating it may be subjective and dependent on personal interpretation.
  • A participant mentions that chaotic music can become indistinguishable from noise, affecting their perception of it as music.
  • References are made to various genres, including death metal, classical, and electronic music, with specific examples provided by participants.
  • Some participants discuss the rhythmic feel of music, contrasting "drive" with "groove" or "swing," suggesting that drive evokes forward motion.
  • Several participants share links to songs and videos they believe exemplify hard-driving music, including both well-known and obscure tracks.
  • There is mention of differing opinions on what constitutes "old school" music and its relevance to the discussion.
  • Some participants express enjoyment of specific songs or performances, highlighting their intensity or unique qualities.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of "hard-driving music," with multiple competing views and interpretations remaining throughout the discussion.

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Participants note that the interpretation of "hard-driving" varies, and some express confusion about the characteristics that define it. The discussion includes references to various music genres and personal experiences, which may not align with others' definitions.

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What's the most hard-driving music ever recorded? Some might go for the MC5 and their Kick Out The Jams but either of these two gets my vote. I'd have to flip a coin.



 
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Though if you take the visual aspect into account you can't beat this one.

 
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maybe
 
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BWV said:
maybe

Too machine gun for me. It's a popular style these days but sixteenth notes on the bass drum is not my bag, nome sane.
 
BWV said:
maybe


This album got me into death metal. I suspect OP had something else in mind. I’m not familiar with the genre of music in the OP. I’m not a musician but I think the following songs are an intersection between death metal and the genre in the OP.


 


Only old school death metal is worth listening to.
 
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I do not know what "hard driving" is supposed to mean, but I am tring a listen to the link in post #6, and it is mostly noisy. Trying a forward into it,... still mostly noise.

Let's take a listen to something different:
Cold Hands Boogie _b_
or you might try hearing same thing,
Cold Hands Boogie _a_
 
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symbolipoint said:
I do not know what "hard driving" is supposed to mean

I think it is probably fairly subjective, but they mean "intense."

Usually: fast, aggressive, chaotic, or some combination of the above.

 
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ultright said:
I think it is probably fairly subjective, but they mean "intense."
Thanks. I can understand. The one difference is about if what I hear is either chaotic or noisy; those are when I can no longer perceive as music.
 
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From "classical" music, the first thing that comes to my mind is Hekla by the Icelandic composer Jón Leifs, which is intended to depict an eruption of the volcano with that name.

 
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I'd say that drive is a propulsive rhythmic feel that evokes forward motion, as opposed to groove or swing or rock and roll that invokes back and forth motion as in dance. Here's something that sounds like galloping over plains at breakneck speed, perhaps pursued by a Parthian whose skill with bow will put paid to you should you falter.



They are from Kazakhstan, where some people still do such things. Encore!

European classical music is strongly inclined toward drive though rubato interferes with that. Eine Kleine Nachtmusic has its stretches of strong drive. I like this low-rubato movement thanks to George Solti. It's like the gods getting ready for war with the unstoppability of a loaded cement mixer truck. Better not get in the way.
 
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nsaspook said:

A fine choice. Here's "my" version.

 
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symbolipoint said:
The one difference is about if what I hear is either chaotic or noisy; those are when I can no longer perceive as music.
"Chaotic" means different things to different writers, from what I can tell. For some it refers to a noisy sound, for others to frenetic activity. To me it signals anything abrupt or random. "Noisy" usually means distortion including terrible production, which can sometimes bring out melody but just as easy produce a white noise "screen" over whatever is barely discernible in the background.
 
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Hornbein said:
As to drive, I like this low-rubato movement thanks to George Solti. It's like the gods getting ready for war with the unstoppability of a loaded cement mixer truck. Better not get in the way.
Here is something that's very raw but doesn't drive. It rocks back and forth. I'm recommending mostly be cause she compares herself to a cement mixer truck! Such a coincidence should not pass unremarked upon.
 
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From hard to soft:



Love it when in the next one he "sings" "Urgh!"



...and someone mentioned traditional black metal. With these guys you can almost smell the Norwegian wooden churches burning, points for scene show anyway:



Talk about angry young men! :smile:
 
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And since genre wasn't mentioned here's the psytrance version:

 
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nasum 😍
 
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PhDeezNutz said:
nasum 😍
Yeah, it's a shame they always seem to die so young and meaninglessly. :frown:

Then again: he "wouldn't accept this life!" :smile:
 
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I wonder if this will embed. Anyway, since we're talking grindcore...

 
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Did you just get your username changed to “Death Metal”?

Nice.
 
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You kinda have to see the video to really appreciate it. Sorry if I've posted it before. I love it when the angry young man screams "UGH":




EDIT: Hah. I did already post it. It just popped on my playlist again. Sorry. I really enjoy this one. Man he was one angry young man.
 
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Ok here is some you don't hear through the top of your head
 
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Not my favorite band (although I did enjoy "The Dirt"), but this tune straight-up kicks a$$:

 
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Here's Meshuggah's rhythm section only while they're jamming a little:

 
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Also, the drums on this Nevermore "ballad" is unbelievable:

 
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I don't understand the words... but I like the song and the intensity.

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robphy said:
I don't understand the words... but I like the song and the intensity.
[...]

I know what you mean. I understand the words but the deeper meaning is kinda lost on me. Then again it's the last track on the album so maybe there's some context we're missing out on. :smile:
 
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Bandmaid -- Shake That

 

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