The relation between the bermuda triangle and black holes

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The discussion explores the relationship between the Bermuda Triangle and black holes, examining theories, hypotheses, and phenomena related to disappearances in the area. It includes considerations of environmental factors, such as weather and geological activity, as well as speculative connections to black holes and magnetic fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the Bermuda Triangle could be a black hole or if it is simply influenced by magnetic fields.
  • One participant argues that the disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle can be attributed to dramatic weather and high traffic, suggesting that similar incidents occur in other heavily trafficked areas without the same level of mystery.
  • Another participant notes that both the Bermuda Triangle and black holes are subjects of discussion despite lacking direct observation, implying a parallel in their enigmatic nature.
  • A hypothesis is presented regarding methane releases from clathrate deposits as a potential explanation for some disappearances, with references to similar phenomena in other regions, such as the Japanese Devils Triangle.
  • The existence of freak waves is mentioned as another possible factor contributing to the strange disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle.
  • One participant highlights the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis, suggesting that large methane releases could have significant environmental impacts, including potential extinction-level events.
  • Corrections are made regarding the location of the Seneca Guns, and links to previous discussions and related information are provided for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causes of disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle, with some attributing them to environmental factors and others exploring more speculative connections to black holes and geological phenomena. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various hypotheses that depend on specific geological and environmental conditions, as well as the interpretation of anecdotal evidence regarding disappearances. There are unresolved aspects related to the scientific validity of the proposed explanations.

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is the bermuda triangle a black hole?

or is it just a magnetic field?

where did the objects which disapeared
in its atmosphere go?
 
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Sabine said:
is the bermuda triangle a black hole?

or is it just a magnetic field?

where did the objects which disapeared
in its atmosphere go?
There is no mystery about the Bermuda Triangle. It is an area that can experience some pretty dramatic weather, and it is well-trafficked by all kinds of vessels. It stands to reason that some small planes or boats might run into trouble in the region. There is nothing mysterious about the fact that vessels have "disappeared" there. Send those same vessels to the waters off the tip of South America, and a heck of a lot more of them would "disappear". It wouldn't make such a good story though, because by now most of us have seen televised coverage of the Whitbread Race and we have seen the extreme weather that the ships can encounter in that region.
 
The relationship between the bermuda triangle and black holes is that neither has been observed, and in spite of that they are both much discussed.
 
Well, there may be more to it than that. There are no more disappearances in the BT than in many places around the world, but there is a tremendous amount of traffic, and [in the noise] it seems that there have been a few perplexing disappearances that might be explained by an occasional, large release of methane; an event thought to be associated with methane clathrate hydrate deposits, which are found not only in the BT, but in other areas around the world that claim similar disappearances. See for example the Japanese Devils Triangle and the research being done there to tap the methane from the clathrates. Also, apparently methane gas pockets exist that can suddenly give way. In another area near Ireland I think, one ship was found sitting on collapsed a gas pocket, on the ocean floor. It has also been shown by scale tests that this type of event can be capable of sinking ships and possibly even bringing down aircraft.

I'm short on time right now but will follow up with some links a little later. There are links in the Anomalies Napster above. See also the Seneca Guns. My personal suspicion is that these "guns" of lore might be large methane releases off the coast of W. Virginia.

In addition to the methane hypothesis, there is also the sailors lore of freak waves - a unique phenomenon that involves waves up to 90 feet high that seemingly appear from nowhere, and the existence of which is only recently confirmed by satellite images. So this could also explain some strange disappearances.

I will follow up on this thread with some links.
 
Oh yes, it is interesting to note that the Clathrate Gun Hypothesis now suggests that these large releases of methane can be extinction level events. Clathrate deposits may also lead to vast supplies of methane for energy conversion. So, you just never know where a significant clue may lie. In a nutshell, this shows why it's worth looking into these fringe subjects.
 
Correction: The Seneca Guns are found in North Carolina. Here is a recent report.
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/S...1031779664026&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099

Previous discussions and links with related information:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=37096
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=27512

See also the sections on clathrates and freak waves here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=58374

More recent supporting information can be found through Google. This story has been evolving quickly over the last few years.
 
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