Padmanabhan holographic gravity (Paris last week)

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The discussion revolves around Padmanabhan's recent talk at the Einstein Centenary conference in Paris, focusing on his insights into holographic gravity and the cosmological constant. Participants explore the implications of his work, particularly in relation to the Einstein-Hilbert action and its connection to thermodynamics, as well as the broader concept of holography in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight Padmanabhan's assertion that certain features of the Einstein-Hilbert action suggest a holographic approach to gravity, independent of spacetime's microstructure.
  • Others note that the surface term of the action can be derived from general considerations, potentially leading to Einstein's equations without the bulk term.
  • There is a suggestion that the relationship between gravity and gauge theories is emphasized through this holographic perspective.
  • One participant points out that the holographic model has historical roots, referencing concepts from the Upanishads, indicating a long-standing philosophical context.
  • Several participants express difficulty in fully grasping the dense material presented, yet encourage further reading of Padmanabhan's work.
  • There is mention of a connection between thermodynamic principles and general relativity, suggesting that quantities in general relativity may have thermodynamic interpretations.

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Participants express a mix of intrigue and confusion regarding the implications of Padmanabhan's ideas. While there is appreciation for the insights presented, no consensus emerges on the interpretations or implications of these concepts, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

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Some participants note the complexity and density of the material discussed, which may limit understanding and lead to varying interpretations of the concepts presented.

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This discussion may be of interest to those engaged in theoretical physics, particularly in the fields of gravity, quantum gravity, and thermodynamics, as well as individuals interested in the philosophical implications of holographic theories.

  • #31
garrett said:
I just arrived at Padmanabhan's paper (and this thread) through reading this related article by Sotiriou:
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0603096

I concur with Fabien Besnard's assessment: WOW

Einstein's equations come from the surface term action and diffeomorphism invariance. This is very deep, and it's going to have some fascinating implications.

I believe there's more about that here
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0603114
Dark Energy: Mystery of the Millennium
T.Padmanabhan
Updated version of the Plenary talk at Albert Einstein Century International Conference at Palais de l'Unesco, Paris, France, 18-23 July, 2005; to appear in the Proceedings; AIP style files included; 16 pages; 2 figs
"...Several curious features of a universe with a cosmological constant are described and some possible approaches to understand the nature of the cosmological constant are reviewed. In particular, I show how some of the recent ideas, related to a thermodynamic route to gravity, allow us to: (i) create a paradigm in which the bulk value of cosmological constant is irrelevant and (ii) obtain the correct, observed, value for the cosmological constant from vacuum fluctuations in a region confined by the deSitter horizon."

You may already have seen that, but i mention it just to make sure.
 
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  • #32
Marcus, I think that Padmanabhan's dark energy paper astro-ph/0603114, even though much of it is an exposition of his earlier work, may be the most important physics paper, and not just in astrophysics or cosmology, of the year. Just the insight that every observer has a horizon, and every smooth surface can be someone's horizon is tremendously enlightening.

I think you're going to see citations on it coming out for a long time.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
Marcus, I think that Padmanabhan's dark energy paper astro-ph/0603114, even though much of it is an exposition of his earlier work, may be the most important physics paper, and not just in astrophysics or cosmology, of the year. Just the insight that every observer has a horizon, and every smooth surface can be someone's horizon is tremendously enlightening.

I think you're going to see citations on it coming out for a long time.

coming from you that means a lot to me----experience, intuition good sense and all.

i will take a closer look at this one.

BTW I see that the paper is a reworking of the talk he gave last summer at the Paris einstein centennial----and it was that Paris talk which Fabien Besnard blogged about, in July or whenever it was, and I think first said WOW.
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