The Struggle to Appreciate: Tobias in Whatever

[wolram]

I am trying to like it but it hurts on my nerves, all the sharp notes, tobias in
what ever, how can you like it?

 

[Astronuc]

I am trying to like it but it hurts on my nerves, all the sharp notes, tobias in what ever, how can you like it?

To what are you listening?!? Start with some adagios or nocturnes.

Try Ralph Vaughn Williams!

Or Samuel Barber, especially his Adagio for Strings.

 

[Hootenanny]

I am particulary fond of the Goldberg Variations by Bach. Also Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A.

~H

 

[wolram]

I am particulary fond of the Goldberg Variations by Bach. Also Mozart's Clarinet Concerto in A.

~H

Can you give me an online rendition of some thing that is not so, painful ?

 

[fourier jr]

Can you give me an online rendition of some thing that is not so, painful ?

skip to sec 3.3 (expression of the score)
http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/goldberg/goldtxte.html

 

[selfAdjoint]

If you stick with Mozart, your ears should not be pained. But after you have got the habit of listening to longer musical lines than pop tunes or rock anthems provide, you should branch out. I recommend for your second step, Schubert, and then some of the French late romantics (Franck, Saint-Saens) and Dvorak. All of this is as sweet on the ear as classical music gets. Oh, Smetana's The Moldau is popular with a lot of people who don't like listening to symphonies.

Have you got access to a public library? Check out their CD collection.

 

[neutrino]

Or listen to an online radio station. I've been listening to Beethoven.com for the past two months and it's great!

 

[wolram]

Or listen to an online radio station. I've been listening to Beethoven.com for the past two months and it's great!

Good idea, i will give it a try.

 

[Evo]

What on Earth were you listening to?

 

[DaveC426913]

wolram, you are such an enigma (I was going to say 'strange bird' but enigma is more polite).

Sometimes you seem as familiar as the guy next door, and sometimes you seem so ... alien?

I'm dying to know your story.

 

[wolram]

wolram, you are such an enigma (I was going to say 'strange bird' but enigma is more polite).

Sometimes you seem as familiar as the guy next door, and sometimes you seem so ... alien?

I'm dying to know your story.

Me, i am as common as muck, a bit scatter brained at times i
know, but alien?

 

[wolram]

What on Earth were you listening to?

Tobias, that's all i heard, anyway i have had classic FM all day and must say
i like some of it.

 

[Evo]

Tobias Picker? I don't know how they can call that classical music, it's "contemporary classical", new music, not what one thinks of when one mentions "classical".

http://www.tobiaspicker.com/

 

[Curious3141]

Try Pachalbel's Canon, very soothing.

And stay far, far away from opera - even I can't stand it.

 

[wolram]

Try Pachalbel's Canon, very soothing.

And stay far, far away from opera - even I can't stand it.

My sophisticated bro goes to opera, i am sure some of those singers have a
compresd air line up the ***, how do they hold those notes so long

 

[Evo]

And stay far, far away from opera - even I can't stand it.

I like Madame Butterfly. It makes me cry.

 

[wolram]

Tobias Picker? I don't know how they can call that classical music, it's "contemporary classical", new music, not what one thinks of when one mentions "classical".

http://www.tobiaspicker.com/

Trust me to get it wrong.

 

[Cyrus]

"contemporary classical' is crap. It is not even close to the same level.

I like Dvorak 9th, From the New World.

 

[wolram]

"contemporary classical' is crap. It is not even close to the same level.

I like Dvorak 9th, From the New World.

You still call it the new world, i thought all these guys came from europe, or about.

 

[Cyrus]

You have much to learn about classical music.

The New World is the United States, because Dvorak imigrated there from his native bohemia. He liked to ride the steam engines up and down the United States.

 

[wolram]

You have much to learn about classical music.

The New World is the United States, because Dvorak imigrated there from his native bohemia. He like to ride the steam engines up and down the United States.

Well sure i have a lot to learn, i have ony just started to listen to it
I did start a thread in history about, blast, forgot his name, but he had a
facinating life.

 

[wolram]

Found it, i lied it was Van Gogh.

 

[Evo]

Found it, i lied it was Van Gogh.

Not many people are familiar with Van Gogh's music. I believe he played the nose flute.

 

[Bladibla]

You must remember that pieces in classical music weren't just made for the sake of just listening and enjoying the music. For some great composers, it meant more intellectual challenges and unheard melodies.

In fact, I would think of as enjoying classical music being the tiniest part of the experience. Its no brainer that some of the music won't get into you - the music was composed for a different style of audience and style, and what might be called masterpieces may be denounced easily by the public nowadays.

You really have to put yourself in the past for baroque and classical music, as some can get really hard to listen to. I can mention a couple of pieces that are really hard to listen to at first - the passions of bach, (just ANYTHING with Bach to be realistic) late string quartets of Beethoven, and for me, (contraversially(!)) everything by Mozart. The time effect is lessor in romantic music and contemporary.

So what does this mean? To get the true essence of classical music, you'll, if you don't your ears hurting, try to listen to more popular classical pieces at first, moonlight sonata, fur elise etc. (despite my disdain for it) Then move on.

Try this for a list:

Canon -> Moonlight sonata -> pathetique sonata -> appasionata sonata -> hammerklavier -> Bach solo cello suites -> Beethoven symphonies/ piano concertos -> Bach Violin partitas -> Everything by Mozart -> Everything by Bach.

 

[wolram]

Not many people are familiar with Van Gogh's music. I believe he played the nose flute.

You mean he did the boogy woogy

 

[neutrino]

I can mention a couple of pieces that are really hard to listen to at first - the passions of bach, (just ANYTHING with Bach to be realistic)

It was the other way for me. I was in love with Baroque music from the instant I started to listening to it. Yes, many of them sound very similar and were restricted in many ways, and, of course, there was the "Red Priest" who wrote the same composition a hundred times (or was 400 it times?) . But I enjoy Baroque.

Wolram, maybe you should try the Four Seasons by Vivaldi (aka the Red Priest). Hope someone here can recommend a good performance.

 

[Chi Meson]

Damn. I'm too late to say anything useful. What did they say about Wagner, "The music is better than it sounds."

 

[wolram]

Some of this stuff i am listening to is good, trouble is they all ways rattle off
what it is and i can never catch it all.

Oh the melody by chikovski (spelling)

 

[Rach3]

Tchaikovsky, Chaikovksy, Tschaikovksky, lots of transliterations. He wrote an incredible violin concerto...

 

[Rach3]

In fact, I would think of as enjoying classical music being the tiniest part of the experience.

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