Direction of Friction in Circular Motion: Solving the Record Spin Dilemma

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The discussion revolves around the direction of friction in the context of an object placed on a spinning record, specifically focusing on the forces involved in circular motion and the concept of centripetal acceleration.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the relationship between friction and centripetal force, questioning the direction of friction and its role in maintaining circular motion. Some participants clarify the distinction between acceleration and velocity, while others consider the implications of forces acting on the object.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of the forces at play, with some participants suggesting that friction acts in the direction of centripetal force, while others raise questions about the nature of reaction forces. There is an ongoing exploration of these concepts without a clear consensus.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of circular motion and the definitions of forces involved, with some assumptions about the nature of the forces and the system being discussed. The discussion reflects a learning environment where foundational concepts are being examined.

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If an object is placed on a record that is spinning, what is the direction of the force of friction?
 
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Which way is he object accelerating?
Got it now?
 
The object itself is not accelerating because it remains still on the record. So is there 0 friction?
 
remember that acceleration is change in velocity per unit time not speed. Velocity has direction involved! This is centripetal acceleration, so the direction of friction is directly inward. Think of riding in a car around a sharp curve.
 
So the direction of friction is in the same direction as the centripetal force (which is the center of the record)? Shouldn't it be in the opposite direction because there has to be an equal and opposite reaction?
 
Good question. The object sitting on the record is moving in a circle. Now pretend that the record does not exist, but instead, some arbitrary force holds the object in a circular path. You know that this force must be the centripetal force because if it were not, the object would go off on a path tangent to the circle. This arbitrary force is the friction of the record. Now the reaction force is actually the friction from the object acting on the record, but this force is not great enough to alter the record and is therefore negligible.
 
So, in this case, friction = centripetal force?
 
Yes, good job. Just so you know, if the record were actually accelerating with speed too, you would just have two components of acceleration perpendicular to each other, so you can use A squared plus B sq = Csq
 
Thanks! Problem solved.
 

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