Calculating Angular Velocity and Revolutions: Magnetic Disk Problem

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The problem involves a magnetic computer disk with a diameter of 8.0 cm that accelerates at a rate of 600 rad/s² for 0.5 seconds, followed by a coasting phase. The original poster seeks to determine the speed of a dot on the edge of the disk at t = 1.0 s and the total number of revolutions made during this time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using rotational kinematic equations to relate angular position, angular velocity, and angular acceleration. There are attempts to calculate angular displacement for both the accelerating and coasting phases, with some participants questioning the initial assumptions and calculations.

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The discussion includes various attempts to solve for the speed and revolutions, with some participants providing guidance on breaking down the problem into parts. There is recognition of the need to clarify the equations used and the calculations performed, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the application of kinematic equations and the interpretation of results, particularly in distinguishing between the two phases of motion. There is also mention of frustration experienced by the original poster, indicating the challenge of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A magnetic computer disk 8.0 cm in diameter is initially at rest. A small dot is painted on the edge of the disk. The disk accelerates at 600 rad/s^2 for .5s, then coasts at a steady angular velocity for another .5s.

A.What is the speed of the dot at t = 1.0 s? 12m/s
b. Through how many revolutions has it turned?


Homework Equations


ummm rotational kinematics...this really isn't the issue


The Attempt at a Solution



I was thinking of find theta for the first and second part then adding them, but this did not work. Then i tried to find alpha for the second part 300rad/s^2 then using omega as 300rad/s to get theta at 450


I am stuck on this problem trying to find the revolutions. I tried the above attempt but it was wrong. I know this is pretty easy but the more and more I try I'm getting frustrated and all knowledge seems to fly out the window.
 
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>> ummm rotational kinematics...this really isn't the issue

Sure it is. Write down the rotational kinematic equations that relate angular position, angular velocity and angular acceleration. Then show your work as you solve for a) and b). If you get stuck, we can offer suggestions by looking at your work.
 
I suggest you write down the equations for uniformly accelerated angular motion first.

Edit: late again.
 
For part a:

w=w0+at
w=0+600*.5
w=300rad/s

v=w*r
v=300*0.04
v=12m/s

For part b:
theta=theta0 +w0t+.5at^2
=0+300+.5*300*1
=450
I used the average acceleration. Part b is really a guess.
 
Try breaking it up into the two parts (accelerating and then coasting) and see if you get the same answers. That would be a good thing to check.
 
Isn't it 300 in both parts?
 
ok for the acceleration:
theta=theta0+wit+.5at^2
theta=0+0_.5*600*.5^2
theta=75rad

For the coasting:
theta=.5(wf+wi)t
theta=.5(300+300).5
theta=150rad

total distance=225rad
revolutions=225/2pi=35.8 revolutions
 
fsm said:
For the coasting:
theta=.5(wf+wi)t
theta=.5(300+300).5
theta=150rad

For the coasting you can use the expression [tex]\theta(t) = \omega \cdot t[/tex], where [tex]\omega[/tex] is the angular velocity after the 0.5 sec acceleration.

Edit: actually, your answer seems to be correct, although I can't understand how you got it, but nevermind.
 
fsm said:
ok for the acceleration:
theta=theta0+wit+.5at^2
theta=0+0_.5*600*.5^2
theta=75rad

For the coasting:
theta=.5(wf+wi)t
theta=.5(300+300).5
theta=150rad

total distance=225rad
revolutions=225/2pi=35.8 revolutions

Right answer, but you really only need the first equation. Once for the interval from 0 to 0.5 sec. Once for the interval from .5 to 1 sec. In the second interval, your initial speed is 300 rad/sec for 0.5 sec while your acceleration is 0. It comes to the same answer either way.
 
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Coolness thanks for the help!
 

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