Is Water the Fuel of the Future? Watch this Video to Find Out!

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential of water as a fuel source, particularly in the context of a video that presents a method involving electrolysis and combustion. Participants explore the feasibility and implications of using water in vehicles and the concept of perpetual motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express optimism about the future of water as a fuel source, referencing the video.
  • Others argue that water is merely a waste product of combustion and that the process described in the video involves reversing combustion through electrolysis, which is not efficient.
  • A participant raises the idea of using an alternator and battery to power the electrolysis process in a vehicle.
  • Another participant challenges this idea by questioning the energy source for the alternator, suggesting it leads to perpetual motion concepts.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of claims made in the video, particularly regarding the practicality of running a car on water alone.
  • Some participants note that making hydrogen from electricity is a well-established process and question the novelty of the method presented in the video.
  • There is mention of the need for any unique process to be validated in trade journals to be considered legitimate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the viability of using water as a fuel source and the legitimacy of the claims made in the video. Multiple competing views remain regarding the efficiency and practicality of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight assumptions about energy sources and the implications of perpetual motion, but these remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Check out this video.



It looks like the future of this is very bright.
 
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No. Water is the waste product of combustion. It is ash. All this guy does is use electrolysis to split hydrogen and oxygen (reversing the conbustion process) and then he burns it. I can assure you that he's taking more power out of the wall socket his machine is plugged into than he gets back by burning the hydrogen and oxygen. There isn't anything new or especially useful here.
 
What about him using it in a car. Using an alternator and battery to power the process.
 
You're going straight back to one of the most common 'perpetual motion machines'. What's going to power the alternator?
 
Oh, good Lord, haven't we been through this enough times on this forum? Where does this question keep coming from?

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What about him using it in a car. Using an alternator and battery to power the process.
I didn't hear that claim anywhere in the video, but if that is what he claims, he's going to need one reaaaaaally big battery!

Yes, now you're into the realm of perpetual motion hoaxes, if that's what this guy's about. There is one line about him being able to run his car on water alone (though he isn't doing it right now - perhaps because he can't figure out that pesky perpetual motion thing, but I don't want to assume that), but it doesn't go into any detail about that. He does explicitly state that his welding torch machine is plugged-into a wall outlet.
 
It does seem to be a distinctly different method of hydrolysis.
That part could be interesting.
 
We don't discuss perpetual motion machines since they don't work, and from what I see there is nothing unexplained here. Making hydrogen with electricity is childs play, and even if he has some unique process, this doesn't imply that there is any mystery here. So either this will show up in the trade journals and qualify as an engineering or chemistry subject, or, it is bogus. In either case it's not a subject for S&D.
 
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