Mixed Quantum States: Definition, Uses & Homework

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mixed quantum states, exploring their definition, physical representation, and applications in quantum mechanics and quantum computation. Participants inquire about the necessity of mixed states, their advantages over pure states, and potential homework problems related to the topic.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define mixed quantum states as probability distributions over a set of quantum states, noting their appearance when complete information about the quantum state is lacking.
  • One participant suggests that mixed states can be represented physically, such as in the case of unpolarized light, which is modeled as a mixed state of different polarization states.
  • Another viewpoint posits that mixed states can be seen as "superpositions without interference effects," highlighting the role of decoherence in transitioning from pure states to mixed states.
  • A participant raises a question about the methods for preparing a particle in a mixed state, comparing it to preparing a die in a mixed state.
  • There is a discussion about the indistinguishability of different ensembles of pure states that can represent the same mixed state, emphasizing the role of the density matrix in describing these states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various perspectives on the definition and implications of mixed quantum states, with no clear consensus on the necessity or advantages of mixed states over pure states. The discussion remains open with multiple competing views and questions raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the statistical properties of mixed states and their relationship to measurement results, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities or assumptions underlying these relationships.

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I have a book on quantum computation that explains the concept of a mixed quantum state. The definition is pretty plain, you just have a boring probability distribution over a set of quantum states.

What I would like to know is why we need mixed states. How are they represented physically in nature. What kind of leverage do they give us over pure states in describing an experiment? What kinds of homework problems would you expect to solve using them ;-)
 
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Tac-Tics said:
I have a book on quantum computation that explains the concept of a mixed quantum state. The definition is pretty plain, you just have a boring probability distribution over a set of quantum states.

What I would like to know is why we need mixed states. How are they represented physically in nature. What kind of leverage do they give us over pure states in describing an experiment? What kinds of homework problems would you expect to solve using them ;-)

Mixed states are standard statistical ensembles of "pure" quantum states, and they appear whenever we don't have complete information of the quantum state, pretty much in the same way as in classical physics. For instance, if you have a beam of "unpolarized" light, then you represent this as a mixed state of "up" and "down" spins for the photons. This is entirely different from a superposition of "up" and "down", which would result in just another polarization state, and which would show "interference" effects.

Now, there can be a funny interplay between the statistical properties of mixed states, and the statistical properties of the measurement results of a pure quantum state.

In a way, you can see a mixed state as "a superposition without interference effects". In fact, quantum mechanics manifests itself as the possibility to come up with different results than that of a mixed state, in a true superposition (a pure state).
Decoherence is the phenomenon of turning superpositions in mixed states.
 
vanesch said:
In a way, you can see a mixed state as "a superposition without interference effects". In fact, quantum mechanics manifests itself as the possibility to come up with different results than that of a mixed state, in a true superposition (a pure state).
Decoherence is the phenomenon of turning superpositions in mixed states.

How would you go about preparing a particle in a mixed state?
 
Tac-Tics said:
How would you go about preparing a particle in a mixed state?

The same way you prepare a dice to be in a mixed state :smile:

Seriously, a mixed state is an ensemble description. In fact, one of the peculiar things about the interplay between mixed state statistics and quantum statistics is that considering particles in a "mixed state" is indistinguishable from considering them in a randomly drawn pure state if that random drawing gives a statistically equivalent description as the mixed state. Worse, there are *different* ensembles of *different* pure states which are all observationally indistinguishable from the "mixed state". What describes a mixed state, or all of these ensembles, is the density matrix rho.

Simple example:
the mixed state "unpolarized electron".

You can see it as 50% |x+> and 50% |x-> (an ensemble of pure states)
or you can see it as 50% |z+> and 50% |z-> (another ensemble of pure states)
or you can see it as 25% |x+>, 25%|x->, 25%|z+> and 25% |z-> (yet another ensemble of pure states)
etc...

they are all observationally indistinguishable. They are all described by one and the same density matrix rho:
1/2 0
0 1/2
 

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