Mowgli: A Lone Hunter in the Jungle

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The discussion revolves around the metaphorical implications of Mowgli's experience of being cast out from both the Man-Pack and Wolf-Pack, exploring themes of isolation, acceptance, and the challenges faced by individuals in the scientific community. Participants reflect on personal experiences and the reception of their ideas within the context of physics and theoretical discussions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants draw parallels between Mowgli's isolation and their own experiences in the scientific community, suggesting feelings of rejection or misunderstanding.
  • There is mention of the "crackpot-pack" versus the "physicists-pack," indicating a perceived divide between mainstream and fringe scientific ideas.
  • One participant expresses frustration over a lack of responses to their physics posting, feeling a mix of sorrow and fury akin to Mowgli's plight.
  • Another participant reflects on the challenges faced by self-taught individuals in gaining acceptance within established scientific circles, suggesting that their insights may be overlooked.
  • There are references to the importance of creative thinking and the artistic aspects of science, with some participants emphasizing the value of diverse perspectives in understanding complex topics.
  • Metaphors related to learning and knowledge acquisition are discussed, with one participant suggesting that personal experiences shape how individuals perceive and contribute to scientific discourse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of feelings about their experiences in the scientific community, with some identifying with Mowgli's isolation while others focus on the creative and collaborative aspects of science. There is no clear consensus on the nature of acceptance or rejection within these discussions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various online platforms and discussions, indicating a broader context of engagement with scientific ideas. There are unresolved feelings about the reception of unconventional ideas and the dynamics of knowledge sharing in the scientific community.

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"Man-Pack and Wolf-Pack have cast me
out," said Mowgli. "Now I will hunt alone in the Jungle.".
 
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arivero said:
"Man-Pack and Wolf-Pack have cast me
out," said Mowgli. "Now I will hunt alone in the Jungle.".

There are always http://superstringtheory.com/forum/cosmoboard/messages9/2.html of a different kind?

Sorry, came out of nowhere? :smile:

What are http://www.superstringtheory.com/forum/relboard/messages6/137.html
 
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Yep sol2, Ligo is a interesting scent to follow. It is fortunate that cosmologist arguments are considered when building models; even I find more impressive their argument barring more than three generations of particles.

When I, somehow drunked, posted the quote last Saturday I was thinking in the crackpot-pack and the physicists-pack. A post of me was simultaneusly rejected in s.p.r. and ignored (now 19 readers during the weekend) in Theory Development.

Alejandro

PS: I have found that Asher Peres also likes R. Kipling quotes.
 
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That was a interesting story. I fail to understand what is being encouraged as your "post" did not work.

What is being rejected?
 
hmm, ok, now it works. There was a typo in the link tag.
 
there was this boy who had a father, who was a fighter fighter, and son who always operated on the periphery of existence... so that he did not have to fight like his father?
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So what was rejected? :smile:
 
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I am not getting your metaphor :-(

Well, anyway, I uploaded the thing as pdf file to the CDS; it is only that this Saturday I was amazed of having a physics posting with no answers in the "theory development" but also with no answers in, ahem, "more serious" physics sites. I felt a little of the mix of sorrow and fury of Mowgli.
 
arivero said:
I am not getting your metaphor :-(

I felt a little of the mix of sorrow and fury of Mowgli.

I reedited the post previous to yours and then created this one


http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/d/d9/Mowgli.png



Now let's look at this in a psychological sense, as it provides a basis for how we might encounter this kind of thing for many other people as well. Even myself:)

I am self taught, and have devoted a extraordinary amount of time in research material, yet my presence in sci physics strings. research might be offensive to some because of the laymen position I hold.

That the territory is better served in sci.physics strings to those who have devoted their educational background, to perfecting the maths for viewing the reality they serve :smile:

In that country, there is foreign ownership, because of the accent developed from learning the language. Not all of us can speak it, but some of us know where this country resides:)

So in my case, using your unhappiness and metaphorical postion, I understand, and have taken this oportunity to clarify not only your postion but mine and others as well.

In my case the relevance to your level of knowledge is much lower, yet I do not miss sometimes the eye catching anomalies, that others can miss:) Tie together the history that many have not tied together, that only see fragments and coastlines.

While in model assumption, some move higher to the realization that such countries are highighted, as we move outward from the planet:)

Thread through the eye hole of a needle and next thing you know, the thread leads to a universe:)

If you noticed, I have not spoken to your article, yet it has sparked some areas in my brain that wonder about what you are saying. I am doing a little research.

That all the knowledge you have gained, allows you to see things that other would not see, and that is a result of being raised by the wolves:)Some will see the sincerity of your interests. Some are very impatient because their views might extend farther then yours and to stop and point out the roads leading too, would have deterred them from the roads they are travelling.


No sense being embittered. Know that the company you keep, has the same issues for everyone at some point or another. Even, for those whose vision is failing in the later years, and need the glassses of the younger versions of ourselves:) We taught the young cubs well?:)

No man/woman is a island :) You might see the humour in it all, and I hope, brightens your day.

There is a creative part of ourselves that is truly artistic, even here in science. One learns to weave together the story,whether its Mowgli or the son.:) Remember two different stories, that have become interlaced. :smile:

In Stranger in a Strange Land, one soon senses what Grokking actually means, when you learn to sip the wine. Some drink fast like me and lose sight of the finer tastes. Aging it, helps sometimes :smile:
 
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sol2 said:
I reedited the post previous to yours and then created this one

And nice posting it is.

So in my case, using your unhappiness and metaphorical postion, I understand, and have taken this opportunity to clarify not only your postion but mine and others as well.
Yep I felt that some clarification was needed, or just that it is needed from time to time.
 

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