Oscillatory Universes in Loop Quantum Cosmology

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The discussion centers on the concept of oscillatory universes within the framework of Loop Quantum Cosmology (LQC), particularly in relation to initial conditions for inflation. Participants explore the implications of a recent paper that studies these oscillatory models and their semi-classical treatments, while also examining the modified Friedmann equation presented in the paper.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the significance of the modified Friedmann equation mentioned in the paper and question whether it aligns with the effective Friedmann equations found in other literature.
  • Others provide references to specific papers that contain effective Friedmann equations, noting that while there are similarities, the equations differ across the referenced works.
  • One participant expresses excitement about the semi-classical range of the scale factor discussed in the paper, emphasizing the transition between quantum and classical cosmology as dependent on a quantization parameter.
  • There is a suggestion to transcribe the modified Friedmann equation in LaTeX for comparison with other effective equations, indicating a desire for deeper analysis.
  • Participants reflect on the implications of the semi-classical phase and the conditions under which classical cosmology is recovered, as well as the nature of the oscillatory behavior of the universe described in the paper.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the modified Friedmann equation is equivalent to the effective Friedmann equations from other papers. Multiple competing views remain regarding the similarities and differences of these equations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and assumptions underlying the modified Friedmann equation and its relationship to effective Friedmann equations in other studies. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the quantization parameter and the specific conditions of the semi-classical phase.

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this just out:


http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0406042

Oscillatory Universes in Loop Quantum Cosmology and Initial Conditions for Inflation
James E. Lidsey, David J. Mulryne, N. J. Nunes, Reza Tavakol
6 pages, 4 figures

LQC continues attracting new researchers: these people are newcomers in the field this year AFAIK. They are at the University of London. looks like a the start of a group there

"Our aim here is to study oscillatory universes within the context of Loop Quantum Cosmology (LQC) which is the application of Loop Quantum Gravity(LQG) to anhomogeneous minisuperspace environment. LQG is at present the main background independent and non– perturbative candidate for a quantum theory of gravity (see for example[4, 5]). This approach provides a (discrete) description of high–energy dynamics in the form of a difference equation. An important consequence of this discretization is the removal of the initial singularity [6]. As the universe expands and its volume increases, it enters an intermediate semi–classical phase in which the evolution equations take a continuous form but include modifications due to non–perturbative quantization effects [7]..."

Abstract:
"Positively-curved, oscillatory universes are studied within the context of Loop Quantum Cosmology subject to a consistent semi-classical treatment. The semi-classical effects are reformulated in terms of an effective phantom fluid with a variable equation of state. In cosmologies sourced by a massless scalar field, these effects lead to a universe that undergoes ever-repeating cycles of expansion and contraction. The presence of a self-interaction potential for the field breaks the symmetry of the cycles and can enable the oscillations to establish the initial conditions for successful slow-roll inflation, even when the field is initially at the minimum of its potential. The displacement of the field from its minimum is enhanced for lower and more natural values of the parameter that sets the effective quantum gravity scale. For sufficiently small values of this parameter, the universe can enter a stage of eternal self-reproduction."
 
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The text mentions the modified Friedmann equation. Is this the same as the effective Friedmann equation of other papers?
 
meteor said:
The text mentions the modified Friedmann equation. Is this the same as the effective Friedmann equation of other papers?

which other papers, meteor?

in this paper what they call the modified F. eq. is equation (1) on page 1.
It is fairly simple so I could transcribe it in LaTex if necessary.
We just need to compare it with the effective F. eq. in those other papers.
 
I refer to
gr-qc/0312110
astro-ph/0311015
astro-ph/0309478

well I have looked at the Effective Friedmann equations in those papers, and is not the same that this equation,though the equation that appears in gr-qc/0312110 is very similar

In fact, the effective Friedmann equation is different in each of the 3 papers, so there's a chance that this Modified Friedmann equation is really the Effective Friedmann equation
 
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meteor said:
I refer to
gr-qc/0312110
astro-ph/0311015
astro-ph/0309478

well I have looked at the Effective Friedmann equations in those papers, and is not the same that this equation,though the equation that appears in gr-qc/0312110 is very similar

meteor I am glad you answered this question so I will just relax
but will have a look at
http://arxiv.org/gr-qc/0312110
because i have forgotten what paper that is

I am excited by the semiclassical range of the scale-factor a that they talk about on page 1
"The semi–classical phaseof LQC arises when the scale factor lies in the range ai <a<a*, where ai


(and then some formulas)


j is a quantization parameter which must take half integer values. Below the scale ai, the discrete nature of spacetime is important, whereas the standard classical cosmology is recovered above a*."

In the large scale limit they recover the classical Friedmann
and in the small scale they have a LQC quantized version of the friedmann which becomes a difference equation

and in this semiclassical range they have a bridge
a differential equation that approximates at small scale the difference equation and at large scale the standard cosmology model---the ordinary Friedmann equation.

And the size of this semiclassical range, this transition between a very quantum universe and a familiar expanding universe, the size of the transition range depends on this parameter j

lots to think about here
 
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