I found a lepton mass ratio formula:

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The discussion centers on the mathematical relationships between the masses of leptons, specifically the electron, muon, and tau, using natural logarithms to express their ratios. The values provided for the masses of these particles are highly precise, with the calculations yielding results that suggest a close relationship between the muon and electron masses. There is an acknowledgment of the limited knowledge regarding neutrino masses, with upper limits established for their values. Additionally, the conversation touches on the potential application of similar mass relationships to quarks, while noting the complexities introduced by force carriers. Overall, the exploration of these mass ratios highlights ongoing interests in particle physics and the quest for deeper understanding.
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I found the following (for what it’s worth):

ln(mu/me) / (2pi-3/pi) = 1.000627
ln(mt/me) / (3pi-4/pi) = 1.00031

me = 0.51099892 MeV (+/-0.00000004)
mu = 105.658369 MeV (+/-0.000009)
mt = 1776.99000 MeV (+0.29 -0.26)

I've not seen it before. There's no theory behind it.
I was trying one, made a bug and stumbled on it.

Regards, Hans
 
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Nice. I'm really into Leptons. I like this post. :biggrin:

What exactly do you mean by me, mu, and mt?

Do you mean \nu_e, \nu_\mu, and \nu_\tau for electron neutrino, muon neutrino, and tau neutrino respectively?
 
It relates the masses of the electron, the muon and the tau lepton.

ln(mu/me) is the natural logarithm of the ratio between the muon mass
and the electron mass. The value 2pi-3/pi describes it with an accuracy
of 0.06% The other one is twice as exact.

Regards, Hans de Vries
 
Anything with neutrinos and their mass ratios?
 
Unfortunately. there's not enough know about the neutriono masses.
For decades (until recently) it was believed that they had no mass at all.
This is what is known about the upper mass limits:

ve Mass < 3 eV
vu mass < 0.19 MeV
vt mass < 18.2 MeV


Regards, Hans
 
There's more here:

http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2004_07_27_The_Electron.html

Regards, Hans
 
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it is really intriguing.
I wonder if it applies to quarks to, perhaps changing -1/pi -> +1/pi, or directly.
 
For even more fun, try adding up the quark mass and see if it equals the proton mass.
 
Chronos, for sure it does not. You must account also the energy of force carriers, which form a glueball.
 

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