Can Gravitons Escape Black Holes? The Curious Case of Massless Particles

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The discussion centers on the question of whether gravitons, which are theoretical massless particles, can escape black holes, similar to photons. Participants assert that while photons cannot escape due to their massless nature, gravitons are also considered virtual particles that do not actually leave black holes. The conversation highlights the distinction between real and virtual particles in quantum field theory, emphasizing that gravitational attraction is mediated by fields rather than direct particle exchange. Ultimately, the consensus is that current understanding of gravity differs fundamentally from electromagnetism.

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If light can't escape a black hole , then can a graviton escape i am assuming it can this is why it gravitates , but I know we havn't observed them yet . But I am curious why can a graviton with no mass but I assume it has energy, escape a black hole but a photon cannot.
or maybe for some weird reason a graviton can't escape a black hole.
 
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Hi cragar! :smile:

When two electrons repel each other electromagnetically, they don't actually exchange photons.

Similarly, when two bodies attract each other gravitationally, they don't actually exchange gravitons.

The photons or gravitons are only virtual particles , which are mathematical fictions designed to help in calculations (in perturbation theory in quantum field theory) of the electromagnetic or gravitational field.

In other words, no graviton leaves the black hole to attract something else, the attraction is done by the field, and the field is calculated mathematically with the help of non-existent "virtual gravitons". :wink:
 
i see , thanks for the answer .
 
so, we really have no idea what happens when two electrons interact, and we have no idea how a field communicates with particles...
 
Here is an interesting quote

The notion of virtual particles mediating static forces comes from perturbation theory, and if there is one thing we know about quantum gravity, it's that the usual way of doing perturbation theory doesn't work.​

see http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Quantum/virtual_particles.html

In other words, all we know about gravity is that it is not like electromagnetism.
 

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