Discovering Happiness: The Truth Revealed

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a hollow Earth and its implications, exploring various geometric and theoretical models, including references to the Holographic Principle and the nature of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR). Participants engage in speculative reasoning about the physical structure of the Earth and the validity of alternative models.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Earth cannot be hollow due to physical constraints, suggesting that except for small air pockets, a planet couldn't possibly be hollow.
  • Others propose that if the Earth were hollow, there could be a physical explanation for it, indicating a willingness to entertain alternative models.
  • One participant references Cyrus Teed's ideas, suggesting that with a liberal interpretation of geometry, it becomes challenging to disprove the hollow Earth hypothesis.
  • There is a discussion about mapping points outside a sphere to its interior, with one participant linking this idea to the Holographic Principle and questioning the implications for the CMBR.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the holographic universe model, with one participant expressing uncertainty about its acceptance in the scientific community.
  • Another participant speculates that digging into the Earth's crust could lead to a singular point in a new coordinate system, potentially corresponding to the center of the Earth as understood in conventional science.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views on the hollow Earth theory and its implications remain, with ongoing debate about the validity of various models and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of their models, particularly in relation to the nature of the CMBR and the physical structure of the Earth. There are unresolved questions about the acceptance of the holographic universe concept and the assumptions underlying the proposed geometrical interpretations.

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Hint: the answer is yes.
 
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Hint: The Earth isn't hollow
 
And except for small air pockets, a planet couldn't possibly be hollow.
 
But if it were, I agree with you; there would be a physical explanation.
 
The Earth is hollow and we're living on the inside of it, despite what the Euclideanists say.
 
jcsd: You haven't read Martin Gardner's "Fads&Fallacies" by any chance, have you?
 
arildno said:
jcsd: You haven't read Martin Gardner's "Fads&Fallacies" by any chance, have you?

No, but I'm famalir with Cyrus Teed's ideas, which are only of note by the fact that if your willing to be a bit liberal with the geometry, then it's very difficult to disprove.
 
How much is 'a bit liberal' wrt geometry?
 
Like being a bit pregnant, my guess.
 
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Nereid said:
How much is 'a bit liberal' wrt geometry?

You can map any point outside of a sphere onto it's interior.
 
  • #11
jcsd said:
You can map any point outside of a sphere onto it's interior.
Thanks; perhaps a very simple version of the Holographic Principle perhaps?

So, in this view, the CMBR would become emission from a sphere interior to the Earth?

What happens when we dig 'down', into the Earth's crust then?
 
  • #12
Nereid said:
Thanks; perhaps a very simple version of the Holographic Principle perhaps?

So, in this view, the CMBR would become emission from a sphere interior to the Earth?

What happens when we dig 'down', into the Earth's crust then?

The CMBR stays as the CMBR I suppose, but I doubt antone has looked into the model seriously.

Unfortunately in this model if you dig down deep enoguh you'd find a singular point in your new coordinate system.
 
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Apologies, did anyone ever take the 'holographic universe' seriously? I admit I took a leave of absence from science a couple of years ago. Having come back again, it still looks like the observed universe is still here.
 
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jcsd said:
Unfortunately in this model if you dig down deep enoguh you'd find a singular point in your new coordinate system.
Interesting. Of course we can 'dig' using the waves from earthquake ... I wonder if this singular point thus corresponds to what in the ordinary world of science we would call the centre of the Earth? Which would be a spherical 'shell', ~3000km 'under' our feet?
 

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