Electron collides with an antimuon

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical outcomes of a collision between an electron and an antimuon, focusing on the nature of their interactions, potential annihilation processes, and the implications of energy levels in such collisions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that an electron and an antimuon would scatter like any two charged leptons and would not annihilate.
  • Others argue that they could annihilate into an electron neutrino and a muon antineutrino, raising questions about the nature of annihilation since they are not antiparticles.
  • A participant mentions that at high energies, a variety of outcomes could occur, but scattering would be the most common result.
  • There is a suggestion that low-energy collisions could lead to the formation of muonium.
  • Some participants discuss the terminology of "annihilation" versus "decay," with one suggesting that the weak interaction involved is rare and may not fit the typical definition of annihilation.
  • Concerns are raised about the detectability of neutrinos resulting from the interaction, with implications that the experiment may appear as if the electrons and muons are vanishing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the interaction constitutes annihilation or decay, and there is no consensus on the terminology or the outcomes of the collision. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of the interaction.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about energy levels and the definitions of annihilation and decay, which are not fully resolved.

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What would happen if an electron collided with an antimuon? I'm assuming an antimuon is positively charged.
 
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They would scatter like any two charged leptons. They would not annihilate.
 
They could annihilate into an electron neutrino and a muon antineutrino.
 
Bill_K said:
They could annihilate into an electron neutrino and a muon antineutrino.

Really? Even though they aren't antiparticles? I've never heard of annihilation of particles except with their own antiparticles.
 
It would be nice to see answers with supporting scientific evidence but I don't disbelieve any of you yet.
 
Tree level is a t-channel decay, the electron and muon exchange a W boson, and the outgoing particles are the neutrinos as Bill_K says.
Either that or they scatter via photon exchange.
 
If you collide them with enough energy then a huge number of things can happen. Everything that usually happens in a particle collider. Overwhelmingly they will just scatter though.

If their energy is low enough they could form muonium, which is pretty cool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muonium).
 
Hepth said:
Tree level is a t-channel decay, the electron and muon exchange a W boson, and the outgoing particles are the neutrinos as Bill_K says.
Either that or they scatter via photon exchange.

Is that "annihilation"?
 
Drakkith said:
Is that "annihilation"?

I suppose it is a matter of terminology, but I personally wouldn't call it that. Each initial charged lepton and final neutrino are part of the same SU(2) doublet, so they are "sort of" flipside particles of each other. You couldn't possibly get anything else out of that W exchange. In a "real" annihilation you get some neutral mediator particle (Z, photon, gluon) in the s-channel which can then split into basically any other particle/antiparticle pair.

But you can call it what you like. I agree with Hepth that "decay" may be a better word, although it is quite an exotic sort of decay. It is a weak interaction so it would be quite rare.

Well ok maybe annihilation is a good word, you basically see nothing as a result of it, so it is maybe even a better annihilation than the usualy kind!
 
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What do you mean by saying you wouldn't see anything as a result?
 
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Drakkith said:
What do you mean by saying you wouldn't see anything as a result?

Well you aren't going to detect the neutrinos, so in your experiment it will just look like electrons and muons are vanishing. Some of the time, anyway.
 
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kurros said:
Well you aren't going to detect the neutrinos, so in your experiment it will just look like electrons and muons are vanishing. Some of the time, anyway.

Ah, ok.
 

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