Problem with finding the complementary solution of ODE

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The discussion revolves around finding the complementary solution of a specific ordinary differential equation (ODE) using variation of parameters. Participants are examining the relationship between the complementary solution and the fundamental set of solutions provided in the context of the problem.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, U, presents a problem involving the ODE ty''-(t+1)y'+y=t^2 and expresses confusion regarding the complementary solution derived from the homogeneous equation.
  • U calculates the roots of the characteristic polynomial and derives a complementary solution, but questions the discrepancy with the fundamental set of solutions given as y_{1}(t)=e^t and y_{2}(t)=t+1.
  • Another participant responds by noting that the characteristic polynomial method is applicable only for constant coefficients, implying that U's approach may not be valid for this ODE with variable coefficients.
  • U acknowledges this point but seeks clarification on how to derive y_{1} and y_{2} from the given ODE.
  • A later reply expresses uncertainty about the derivation process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the method for deriving the complementary solution, and multiple views regarding the applicability of the characteristic polynomial method remain. The discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of the characteristic polynomial method in the context of variable coefficients, but the specific assumptions or definitions necessary for deriving the complementary solution are not fully explored.

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Hello!

On Pauls notes webpage, there is the following problem to be solved by variation of parameters:

ty''-(t+1)y'+y=t^2 (1)
On the page, the fundamental set of solutions if formed on the basis of the complementary solution. The set is:
y_{1}(t)=e^t and y_{2}(t)=t+1

Now, I must be missing something here. Since I get the complementary solution for the homogeneous equation of (1):

r=\frac{(t+1)+/- \sqrt{(t+1)^2-4t}}{2t} which solves as r_{1}=1 and r_{2}=\frac{1}{t} which would give a complementary solution of:

Y_{c}=C_{1}e^{t}+C_{2}e^{\frac{1}{t}t}=C_{1}e^{t}+C_{2}e^1
from which I would get y_{1}(t)=e^t and y_{2}(t)=e

What have I missed, must be simple...

Regards,
U.
 
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Hello Uku! :smile:
Uku said:
I get the complementary solution for the homogeneous equation of (1):

r=\frac{(t+1)+/- \sqrt{(t+1)^2-4t}}{2t} which solves as r_{1}=1 and r_{2}=\frac{1}{t} which would give a complementary solution of:

Y_{c}=C_{1}e^{t}+C_{2}e^{\frac{1}{t}t} …

no, the characteristic polynomial method only works for constant coefficients,

not for coefficients which depend on t
 
Okay, that is true, thank you. I now read from his example that the set is given by default.

Still: how would you arrive at y_{1} and y_{2}?

U.
 
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