Is the Earth's Core Solid or Liquid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the state of the Earth's core, specifically whether the inner core is solid or liquid, and the mechanisms behind the heating of the core. Participants explore theoretical and experimental aspects, including the roles of pressure, radioactivity, and tidal forces in determining the core's state.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the inner core is solid despite increasing temperature towards the center, suggesting that pressure alone should not lead to solidification.
  • Others propose that increased pressure can solidify liquids, regardless of temperature, and that the heating of the core is influenced by radioactivity and tidal forces.
  • There are inquiries about the sources of heating, with suggestions that radioactivity may be higher at greater depths due to the weight of radioactive isotopes.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the idea that radioactivity increases with depth, arguing that elemental composition varies and does not necessarily lead to higher radioactivity.
  • Questions arise regarding the experimental evidence for the temperature and pressure profiles of the Earth's core, with references to the Kola Superdeep Borehole as a significant drilling effort.
  • A later reply mentions that tidal forces affect the entire planet, not just water, and that they may contribute to the heating of the core.
  • Some participants express caution about introducing personal theories without established evidence, emphasizing the need for scientific rigor in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanisms behind the state of the Earth's core, with multiple competing views regarding the roles of pressure, radioactivity, and tidal forces remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of solid and liquid states, the complexity of heating mechanisms, and the unresolved nature of experimental evidence regarding the core's properties.

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Hi Guys,

This may seem like a stupid question but if the Earth gets hotter the closer to the core you get, then why is the inner core apparently solid? Yet the outer core is liquid?

They are both (inner/outer cores) made of roughtly the same stuff, and assuming pressure alone is what heats the core, why would it be cool enough to solidify in the centre?

Adam
 
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It doesn't have to be cool to solidify. Increased pressure can solidify liquids as well, especially if the solid has lower volume than the liquid.

Pressure doesn't heat the core, no idea what you mean by that.
 
Hi Borek,

Thanks for your reply.

Firstly then, what causes the heating?

Secondly, I don't fully understand why the core should be solid. If the core has less mass and the same amount of heat around it, then shouldn't the core change phase more easily?

The only way I can see the effect happening is if the Earth is heated from an external source and the heat doesn't radiate(/conduct/convect) well enough to melt the core.

Much like frying some butter in a frying pan. The frying pan is external to the butter, and as the pan heats up, it heats the external surface of the butter, whilst the core of the butter is still solid (for a while).
 
There are two sources of heating - radioactivity and tidal forces.

The deeper you go, the higher the pressure and the temperature - it happens that as some depth PT are such that the melt solidifies.
 
Oh ok.

So why would radioactivity be higher as you get deeper? Has anyone done any sort of mining to show this to be the case?

What would induce the core tidal forces? I know the Moon is supposed to control the surface ocean waves.

you mention:
The deeper you go, the higher the pressure and the temperature - it happens that as some depth PT are such that the melt solidifies.

What experimental evidence has been gained sofar to profile the Earth's PT to the core? Do you have any links I can read about?

I suppose you're wondering where I'm taking this? Well, some of the data I've found suggests the core heating and rotation may be of electromagnetic origin. However before I put the whole idea out for sanity checking, I need to make sure the pieces of the puzzle fit together. Theidea seems scalable too, which points to other practical implications.
 
motorman said:
Oh ok.

So why would radioactivity be higher as you get deeper?
Gravity: radioactive isotopes are heavy.
Has anyone done any sort of mining to show this to be the case.
We are not capable of mining that deep.
Well, some of the data I've found suggests the core heating and rotation may be of electromagnetic origin. However before I put the whole idea out for sanity checking...
This forum allows neither crackpottery or unpublished personal theories.
 
motorman said:
Oh ok.

So why would radioactivity be higher as you get deeper? Has anyone done any sort of mining to show this to be the case?

The Kola Superdeep Borehole is the deepest anyone has ever drilled into the Earth's surface. It reached 12,262 metres underground, which was about 1/3 of the way through the crust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
 
motorman said:
So why would radioactivity be higher as you get deeper?

It is not. That is, as the elemental composition is not constant, for sure there exist some stratification, but there is no need for the radioactivity to get higher when you get deeper to explain the temperature differences.

What would induce the core tidal forces? I know the Moon is supposed to control the surface ocean waves.

Tidal forces don't act on water only, they deform the whole planet.
 

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