How to Calculate Velocities and Momentum in an Elastic Collision of Bumper Cars

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocities and momentum of two bumper cars involved in an elastic collision. The problem involves understanding the principles of momentum and kinetic energy conservation in the context of a collision scenario.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation equations for momentum and kinetic energy but expresses confusion regarding the example provided in their textbook. Some participants question the derivation of specific equations used in the example, while others suggest solving the equations derived from conservation principles.

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I need help with this question:
A pair of bumper cars in an amusement park ride collide elastically as one approaches the other directly from the rear. One has a mass of 450kg and the other 550kg, owing to differences in passenger mass. if the lighter one approaches at 4.5m/s and the other is moving at 3.7m/s, calculate a)their velocities after the collision and b) the change in momentum of each

ok this is what i know
m1 = 450 kg, v1 = 4.5 m/s
m2 = 550 kg, v2 = 3.7 m/s

i know I'm suppose to use these formulas:
m1v1+m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2'
and
(1/2)m1v1^2 + (1/2)m2v2^2 = (1/2)m1v1^2' + (1/2)m2v2^2'

my teacher gave us this homework without really explaining anything and the example my book gives to me is very confusing

so i know m1v1+m2v2 = total momentum in this system, which is:
450kg(4.5m/s)+550kg(3.7m/s)=4060 Ns
and the total KE after the collision is:
.5(450kg)(4.5m/s)^2+.5(550kg)(3.7m/s)^2 = 8321J

then my book becomes confusing and i get lost

what do i do?
 
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basically this is the work my book gives for the example it has provided:

first: the same two equations i gave
next: using the momentum equation (m1v1+m2v2=m1v1'+m2v2') they get:
v1' = v1 - (m2/m1)v2'

(v2 = 0 in this equation in case you're wondering why that might be missing)

then they say they substituted that into the KE equation and got:

(v2)'^2 - (v2')((2m1v1)/(m1+m2) = 0

i don't know how they got that equation

(info bout this example:
m1 = 1.01u, v1 = 3.6*10^4m/s
m2 = 4.0u, v2 = 0 m/s)
 
please help me :frown:
 
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if I am right, my anwer is v1' = 3.73m/s and v2' = 4.34m/s
 
You know "450kg(4.5m/s)+550kg(3.7m/s)=4060 Ns
and the total KE after the collision is:
.5(450kg)(4.5m/s)^2+.5(550kg)(3.7m/s)^2 = 8321J"

so, taking v1 and v2 as the velocities after the collision, you know

450v1+ 550v2= 4060 and
.5(450)v12+ .5(550)v22= 8321.

Solve those 2 equations for v1 and v2.
 

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