Invariant mass Definition and 28 Threads

  1. Lotto

    What will the final velocity of the particles be?

    So I would get ##u=\frac{vc}{\sqrt{4c^2-3v^2}}=0.996c##. But the right answer is ##0.956c##. Where is my mistake?
  2. R3ap3r42

    Invariant mass and energy balance

    a) Two particles have energies E1 and E2, and momenta p1 and p2. Write down an expression for the invariant mass of this two-particle system. Leave your answer in terms of E1 and E2, and p1 and p2. b) A typical photon (γ) in the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) has an energy of kBTCMB, where...
  3. R

    I What is the Invariant Mass of Two Perpendicular Photons?

    I think since Esystem=(PsystemC)^2 + (Minvariant C^2)^2. Then the invariant mass of the system should be zero, but I am hesitated with this is it always the case that photon that travels perpendicular to each other have zero invariant mass
  4. tnibbz

    How to Calculate Invariant Mass for Negligible Particle Mass?

    So I know that since we are ignoring the mass of the electron, and the proton starts at rest, the proton has no KE and the electron has no rest energy. So the initial total energy of the system would be rest energy of proton + KE of electron = 2GeV + .938GeV = 2.938 GeV and since energy is...
  5. DuckAmuck

    I Invariant Mass in Gravitational Fields: Special Relativity

    In Special Relativity, you learn that invariant mass is computed by taking the difference between energy squared and momentum squared. (For simplicity, I'm saying c = 1). m^2 = E^2 - \vec{p}^2 This can also be written with the Minkowski metric as: m^2 = \eta_{\mu\nu} p^\mu p^\nu More...
  6. L

    I A question about invariant mass

    A question of invariable mass. In a inertial system, the invariable mass of a system never change with time. This system may not be an isolated system. Whether in any inertial system, the invariant mass of the system remains unchanged.Or, in a certain inertial system, what is the necessary and...
  7. I

    I Invariant mass plots for resonance 'particles'

    The interaction p + π- → n + π- + π + may proceed by the creation of an intermediate 'particle' or resonance called a rho. This can be detected as a peak in the plot of invariant rest mass energy of the emergent pions versus frequency of pions observed. My question is quite simply, invariant...
  8. S

    Invariant mass problem, elastic collision

    fHomework Statement Question b: Homework Equations E2=c2p2+m2c4 The Attempt at a Solution We have c2pinitial2=E02-m2c4, and Ef2=c2p2+m2c4 for each outgoing proton. Combining those equations we get c2p2=Ef2-E02+c2pinitial2. I don't know where to go from here.
  9. D

    I How does the distribution depend on a variable resolution

    Dear all, We were trying to solve the following question but did not quite understand what to do. The question is as follows: The reconstructed invariant mass is usually described by a Gaussian (or Normal) distribution. However, the resolution σ (the width of the distribution) is found to...
  10. N

    I D meson decay and invariant mass

    Considering a D0->π+K- where the D meson decays from rest. If one was to want to calculate the invariant mass of the D meson by measuring the momenta of the pion and kaon, following from conservation of momentum: m2=(Eπ+EK)2-(pπ+pK)2 However by inputting numerical data Eπ=137MeV EK=493MeV...
  11. A

    I Is the mass defect still considered with invariant mass?

    Hello. Suppose you were to assemble a sphere of negative charges. When you are done, the rest mass of the sphere is larger than that of the negative charges because they gain energy in forming the sphere. But the invariant mass of the electrons can't change and apparently gaining energy doesn't...
  12. nmsurobert

    Calculating Invariant Mass in LHC Collisions: A Proton Beam Energy Question

    Homework Statement At the LHC at CERN protons with an energy of 6.5 TeV (= 6.5·1012eV) each are collided with each other.To achieve the same invariant mass in a fixed target experiment, what would the energy of the proton beam have to be? Homework Equations E2 - p2c2 = m2c4 E2 - p2c2=...
  13. Imager

    Invariant mass of a photon changes - from Wiki

    I'm reading the Wiki article below to say the invariant mass of photons in an expanding volume of space will decrease. I thought invariant mass of a photon was always zero and the energy of photon changed due to the expansion of space. So where did I go wrong? Quote from Wiki General...
  14. M

    Energy of neutral pion in proton's rest mass frame

    Hello, my problem is as follows I've tried finding the invariant mass of the positron and pion as follows M^2=(E_e+E_{\pi})^2-(\mathbf{p_e}+\mathbf{p_{\pi}})\\ =E_e^2+E_{\pi}^2+2E_eE_{\pi}-p_e^2-p_{\pi}^2-2\mathbf{p_ep_{\pi}}\\ =m_e^2+m_{\pi}^2-2(E_eE_{\pi}+\mathbf{p_ep_{\pi}})\\...
  15. Z

    Some questions on Invariant Mass Spectrum

    What can we learn from Invariant Mass Spectrum?How to measure it?So,how to read it? Mass measurement is converted into energy measurement,but how could we make the quantity change continuously in order to form the horizontal axis? How to divide different particles to measure them...
  16. T

    Is there a difference between rest mass and invariant mass?

    1. is there a difference between 'rest mass' and 'invariant mass'? I thought there wasn't... To put it another way (or maybe this next question is a different question): 2. Is there a difference between the rest mass of a positron/electron pair, and the rest massa of a system containing two...
  17. R

    General relativity and invariant mass

    The invariant mass of special relativity: m_0{^2} = E^2 – p^2 There doesn't seem to be any quantity with units of mass that is invariant in general relativity. Invariant mass loses significance, as other than an approximation where space-time is sufficient flat. But at the same time, mass is...
  18. tom.stoer

    Invariant mass and spin in deSitter cosmology

    A friend of mine was reading Penrose's new book on CCC; I do not want to discuss this story here but a rather interesting detail which could be relevant w/o the whole CCC stuff. SR and GR rely on (global and local) Lorentz invariance. From these symmetries one can derive invariant mass M² and...
  19. D

    Relativistic Mass vs. Invariant Mass.

    Hey all, I'm quite confused on this and am curious to be put straight. Now I understand the basic principles of relativity, this one just bugs me. Now I have always been taught that the famous E=MC^2 formula was proof that mass would reach toward infinity as it neared the speed of light...
  20. V

    How Do You Calculate Invariant Mass in Particle Physics?

    Homework Statement so I'm doing some proof-of-concept data analysis this summer and I've never taken a relativistic mechanics class and I'm a bit stuck. i need to figure out if there was a rho0 decay to pi+/pi- in some hypothetical 900GeV collision data. If there is, there should be a spike...
  21. S

    M. Frame: Invariant Mass Confinement < c Motion

    Hi, hopefully this isn't a dumb question. I've read essentially that in the center of mass/momentum frame an object has invariant mass, and that the system's total mass will be composed of the constituent particles' masses and any other kinetic and potential energies within the system. I also...
  22. W

    Calculate Invariant Mass for Kaon & Pion - Help from W.

    We have a collision involving a Kaon plus and proton initially resulting in the same plus a neutral pion (ie. Kp to Kp(pi)). The question asks to calculate the invariant mass of just the outgoing kaon and pion, given the outgoing momenta of the particles, the angle between them and their masses...
  23. T

    Particle physics - invariant mass question

    Homework Statement At HERA 30 GeV electrons collided head on with 820 GeV protons. Calculate the invariant mass of ep collisions. (masses: e=0.0005GeV, p=0.938GeV) Homework Equations M^2 = (E1 + E2)^2 - (p1 + p2)^2 ? The Attempt at a Solution I know the numerical answer to...
  24. I

    Calculating Invariant Mass Using Momentum and Rest Mass

    Hello, I'm working on this problem and I'd like to know how to find the invariant mass using just the lab-frame momentum and rest mass. I've found a lot of equations that deal with E, and I'm not completely sure what that is either. Thanks
  25. D

    Lorentz invariant mass of electromagnetic field?

    An photon has mass zero by virtue of its momentum canceling its energy in m^2c^4 = E^2-p^2c^2 But in electromagnetism a field configution only has momentum when both a magnetic field and an electric field are present, e.g. in an electromagnetic wave. Now when there is only an electric or...
  26. I

    Confused about invariant mass in particle collision

    Ok, when you use positrons to shoot at stationary electrons in a collider with enough energy so that you make a pair of proton and antiproton. The total energy of the pair would be E = T + MC^2, where M is the total invariance mass of the pair, namely 2*938Mev, or I can use E^2 = (pc)^2 +...
  27. P

    Inertial mass, invariant mass and the photon?

    In some cases, inertial mass does not equal invariant mass? What is the relation between the two? So the photon can have non zero inertial mass but always 0 invariant mass?
  28. P

    What Is the Difference Between Invariant Mass and Proper Mass?

    "Invariant Mass" vs "Proper Mass" I see that there are many people here who prefer the idea that the mass of a particle is the magnitude of the the particle's 4-momentum. However that is known as "Proper Mass" and some simply say "mass." However that idea is limited in use. It can't be...
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