1 volume of hydrogen = how many hydrogen molecules there?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the number of molecules in given volumes of hydrogen and oxygen gases, as well as the resulting water vapor from a chemical reaction. It touches on concepts related to the ideal gas law and stoichiometry in chemical reactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants inquire about the number of hydrogen molecules in 1 volume of hydrogen and oxygen molecules in 1 volume of oxygen.
  • Some participants suggest using the ideal gas law, expressed as $$PV=nRT$$, to calculate the number of molecules based on temperature and pressure conditions.
  • It is noted that the number of molecules in a mole is Avogadro's number, which is relevant for these calculations.
  • One participant points out that the initial assumption of constant temperature and pressure before and after the reaction may not hold true in general.
  • A more precise chemical equation is proposed: 2 H2 + 1 O2 → 2 H2O, indicating the stoichiometric relationship between the reactants and products.

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There is no consensus on the specific calculations or assumptions regarding temperature and pressure. Multiple views on the application of the ideal gas law and the implications of the chemical reaction are present.

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The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding temperature and pressure, nor does it clarify the implications of the ideal gas law in this context.

Indranil
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''1 volume of hydrogen + 1 volume of hydrogen + 1 volume of oxygen = 2 volumes of water vapor''
Now my questions are as follows:
1. How many hydrogen molecules in 1 volume of hydrogen?
2. How many oxygen molecules in 1 volume of oxygen?
3. how many water vapor molecules in 2 volumes of water vapor?
How to calculate? please explain.
 
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Indranil said:
''1 volume of hydrogen + 1 volume of hydrogen + 1 volume of oxygen = 2 volumes of water vapor''
Now my questions are as follows:
1. How many hydrogen molecules in 1 volume of hydrogen?
2. How many oxygen molecules in 1 volume of oxygen?
3. how many water vapor molecules in 2 volumes of water vapor?
How to calculate? please explain.
I think what you are looking for is the ideal gas law, which would allow you to calculate the number of molecules of gas in a given volume if you know the temperature and pressure. This is expressed as
$$PV=nRT$$
where
P is pressure
V is volume
n is the number of moles of gas
R is the universal gas constant
T is the absolute temperature
All of these variables should be expressed in SI units.
The number of molecules in a mole is Avogadro's number. You can do a search on the ideal gas law for more details.
The statement of your problem implicitly assumes that the temperature and pressure are the same before and after the chemical reaction. This is not true in general.
 
tnich said:
I think what you are looking for is the ideal gas law, which would allow you to calculate the number of molecules of gas in a given volume if you know the temperature and pressure. This is expressed as
$$PV=nRT$$
where
P is pressure
V is volume
n is the number of moles of gas
R is the universal gas constant
T is the absolute temperature
All of these variables should be expressed in SI units.
The number of molecules in a mole is Avogadro's number. You can do a search on the ideal gas law for more details.
The statement of your problem implicitly assumes that the temperature and pressure are the same before and after the chemical reaction. This is not true in general.
A more precise way to state the chemical equation for combining hydrogen with oxygen would be:

2 moles of hydrogen molecules + 1 mole of oxygen molecules results in 2 moles of water vapor

or equivalently

2 H2 + 1 O2 → 2 H2O
 
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