2.1.2 Find the general solution of y'−2y=t^{2}e^{2t}

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of the differential equation \(y' - 2y = t^2 e^{2t}\) and analyzing the behavior of solutions as \(t \to \infty\). The focus includes the methodology for solving the equation, particularly the use of integrating factors.

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  • Some participants confirm the differential equation as \(y' - 2y = t^2 e^{2t}\) and proceed to find the integrating factor.
  • Several participants derive the integrating factor as \(\mu = e^{-2t}\) and apply it to transform the equation into a solvable form.
  • There are multiple expressions for the general solution, with some participants presenting it as \(y = e^{2t}\left(\frac{t^3}{3} + C\right)\) while others express it as \(y(t) = Ce^{2t} + \frac{1}{3}t^3e^{2t}\).
  • One participant questions the initial notation and suggests that the term "find \(u_x\)" is unclear, emphasizing the need for an integrating factor instead.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the equation, with some participants clarifying the terms involved in the differential equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the form of the differential equation and the method of finding the integrating factor, but there are differing expressions for the general solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise formulation of the solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion over terminology and notation, particularly regarding the use of "u" and "x" in the context of the problem. There are also variations in the constants used in the general solution, which may lead to different interpretations.

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Find the general solution of
$y'−2y=t^{2}e^{2t}$
and use it to determine how solutions behave as
$t \to \infty$

ok presume the first thing to do is to find $u{x}$
$\exp{\displaystyle\int{2} y}=e^{-2} or \dfrac{1}{e^2}$
 
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is the DE
$y' - 2y = t^2e^{2t}$ ?

if so, then the integrating factor is $\mu = e^{\int -2 \, dt} = e^{-2t}$

$e^{-2t} \cdot y' + (-2e^{-2t} \cdot y) = t^2$

$(e^{-2t} \cdot y)' = t^2$

$e^{-2t} \cdot y = \dfrac{t^3}{3} + C$

$y = e^{2t}\left(\dfrac{t^3}{3} + C\right)$
 
do you mean

$$y^\prime - 2y = t^2 e^{2t}$$

if so we have

$$y^\prime + p(t) = q(t)\\
p(t)=-2,~q(t) = t^2e^{2t}$$

The integrating factor is given by

$$\nu(t) = e^{\int p(t)~dt} = e^{-2t}$$

$$e^{-2t}y^\prime - 2 y e^{-2t} = t^2\\

\dfrac{d}{dt}\left(e^{-2t}y\right) = t^2 \\

e^{-2t} y = \dfrac 1 3 t^3 + C\\

y = e^{2t}\left(\dfrac 1 3 t^3 + C\right)

$$
 
y- 2y? That's equal to -y! Do you mean $y'- 2y= t^2e^{2t}$?
You say "the first thing to do is find ux". That makes no sense because there is no "u" or "x" in the problem!

I presume you mean you are looking for an "integrating factor". That would be a function, u(t), such that u(t)y'- 2u(t)y= (u(t)y)'. Since (u(t)y)'= u(t)y'+ u'(t)y we must have u'(t)y= -2u(t)y so that u'(t)= -2u(t). Then u'(t)/u(t)= -2. Integrating, ln(u)= -2t+ C and $u(t)= C'e^{-2t}$ where $C'= e^C$.

Multiplying both sides of $y'- 2y= t^2e^{2t}$ by $e^{-2t}$ (since we can use any integrating factor we can take C'= 1) we get $e^{-2t}y'- 2e^{-2t}y= (e^{-2t}y)'= t^2$.

Integrating both sides $e^{-2t}y= \frac{1}{3}t^3+ C$ so that

$y(t)= Ce^{2t}+ \frac{1}{3}t^3e^{2t}$.
 
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romsek said:
do you mean

$$y^\prime - 2y = t^2 e^{2t}$$

if so we have

$$y^\prime + p(t) = q(t)\\
p(t)=-2,~q(t) = t^2e^{2t}$$

The integrating factor is given by

$$\nu(t) = e^{\int p(t)~dt} = e^{-2t}$$

$$e^{-2t}y^\prime - 2 y e^{-2t} = t^2\\

\dfrac{d}{dt}\left(e^{-2t}y\right) = t^2 \\

e^{-2t} y = \dfrac 1 3 t^3 + C\\

y = e^{2t}\left(\dfrac 1 3 t^3 + C\right)

$$
yes my bad #2

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