2 blocks, on ontop of the other

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The problem involves two blocks, A and B, where block A is positioned on top of block B. The inquiry focuses on comparing the magnitudes of the gravitational force acting on block B and the force exerted by block A on block B, considering the mass difference between the two blocks and their stationary state on level ground.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on block B, including gravitational force and normal force, while questioning how to determine which force is greater. They explore the implications of the blocks being stationary and the conditions for equilibrium.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and confirmations regarding the relationships between the forces. There is a recognition of the need for free body diagrams (FBD) to clarify the forces acting on each block, and some participants express confidence in their understanding of the forces involved.

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Participants note that both blocks are stationary, leading to a net force of zero, which is a critical aspect of the discussion. The mass difference between the blocks is also emphasized as a key factor in understanding the forces at play.

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Homework Statement


block A is ontop of block B.
block A more mass than B

Which force is greater magnitude, Force of gravity (mg (weight) on block B, or force of block A on B?
Wouldnt answer have to be Faonb because both blocks are subject to gravity?

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Indirectly, your answer is correct, but you need to be a bit more specific in your reasoning. If you believe the force of gravity on A is equal to the force of A on B, you must state why.
 
Sorry, let me add a little more (important) info
Both blocks are stationary on level ground.

So let's say i want to know which force, on B has the greatest magnitude.
I have 3 forces acting On block B.
1) W (on b by earth)
2) F (on b by a)
3) N (on b by s)

Objects are not accerating (or moving) so I know Fnet=0
specifically,
Fxnet = 0 and
Fynet = 0

Also, there are no forces in x direction

For y I have
SumFynet = NyBS - mgyBE - FyBA= 0

So just purely from above equation, largest force would have to be the normal force of suface on B.
But how do i know which force is bigger, force on B by Earth (FyBE), or force on B by A (FyBA)??
thanks for any help
 
Good FBD of block B. But now to answer your question, you need to make a FBD of block A, then use Newton 3.
 
mujadeo, you clearly understand the process, so just finish your thought. The weight of B is the force from gravity. Since A is on top of B, and nothing is moving, the weight of A, would be the force acting on B. You know that A has greater mass than B, gravity is the same for both blocks, so which force is greater?
 
"You know that A has greater mass than B, gravity is the same for both blocks, so which force is greater?"
yeah that's how i was visualizing it, so thanks for the confirmation.
Obviously A would have the greater Force (gravity times its mass, (which is greater than B))

One other querstion though: Necause system is stationary (Fnet=0) that just means that all the forces must add to zero, right?
OK so does that mean when i do FBD for block A, that should = 0
and FBD for B that should be 0
and FBD for system A and B, that should 0 also, is that rght? ---thanks
 
Yes to all your questions.
 

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