2017 times a is a natural number

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The discussion revolves around finding the product of 2017 and a variable A, with participants exploring the mathematical context and implications of the problem. The subject area includes summation notation and series, as well as partial fraction decomposition.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss expressing the problem in summation notation and identifying patterns in the series. There are attempts to derive the nth term of a related series and to compute sums of sequences. Questions about how to proceed further are raised multiple times.

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The discussion is active, with various hints and suggestions being offered. Some participants provide guidance on recognizing patterns and using known formulas, while others encourage further exploration of the problem's structure.

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There is a mention of the need for clarity regarding the summation of natural numbers and the potential implications of the problem's setup. Participants are encouraged to consider the size of their expected answer.

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Homework Statement



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find 2017 times A

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the sum of last members denominator.is 2017 multiplied by 1008
the member before it is 2015 multiplied by 1008
before it 2015 times 1007
2013 times 1007
2013 times 2016
how can i move futher
 
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Have you tried to write this equation in summation notation? The denominators can be written in a closed form, which the inverse can be taken of.
 
giokrutoi said:

Homework Statement



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find 2017 times A

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


the sum of last members denominator.is 2017 multiplied by 1008
the member before it is 2015 multiplied by 1008
before it 2015 times 1007
2013 times 1007
2013 times 2016
how can i move futher
$$A = {1 \over 1+ 2} + {1 \over 1+ 2 +3 } +\cdots + {1 \over 1+ 2+ \cdots +2016}$$
$$\color {red}{A + 1 = {1\over 1} + {1 \over 1+ 2} + {1 \over 1+ 2 +3 } +\cdots + {1 \over 1+ 2+ \cdots +2016}+ \cdots }$$

Find the nth term of 'red thing', then do partial fraction decomposition. You will a series that is very easy to compute.
 
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A good first step is to try to spot the pattern. With just one term, it is 1/3. What is the sum of the first two? Of the first three?...
 
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Haruspex has a good hint. A related hint is "about how big do you expect your answer to be?"
 
Just one reminder, I guess you have been taught that ##1+2+...+k=\frac{k(k+1)}{2}##, because it should be easy to recognize that, but you don't even mention it in your post or at relevant equations.
 
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