243.13.01.19 For which path is the particle's speed constant

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining which of several given parametric equations describes a path where a particle's speed remains constant. Participants explore the mathematical properties of the equations, focusing on the velocity vectors and their magnitudes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the path described by \( R_3(t) = t\textbf{i} + t\textbf{j} \) has a constant speed based on their calculations of the velocity vector.
  • Another participant indicates that the magnitude of the velocity vector is constant at \( \sqrt{2} \), implying that the dot product is unnecessary for this determination.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correct paths, with one participant guessing \( R_2 \) based on the absence of powers greater than 1.
  • A later reply corrects an earlier assumption about the fourth choice, indicating that the speed varies due to the dependence on the parameter \( t \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on which paths have constant speed, as multiple viewpoints and guesses are presented, and some participants acknowledge the possibility of multiple correct answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on the properties of velocity vectors and their magnitudes, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which speed is considered constant.

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$\tiny{243.13.01.19}$
$\textsf{The following equations each describe the motion of a particle.}$
$\textsf{ For which path is the particle's speed constant?}$
\begin{align*} \displaystyle
R_1(t)&= t^7\textbf{i}+t^4\textbf{j}\\
R_2(t)&= \cos(3t)\textbf{i}+\sin(8t)\textbf{j}\\
R_3(t)&= t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j}\\
R_4(t)&= \cos(3t^2)\textbf{i}+\sin(3t^2)\textbf{j}\\
%\textit{speed constant on}&=\color{red}{Path(3)}
\end{align*}
$\textit{By observation I would quess $ \, R_3(t)= t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j}$ so then: }$
\begin{align*} \displaystyle
R_3(t)&= t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j}\\
R_3^\prime (t)=V_3(t)&=\textbf{i}+\textbf{j}
\end{align*}
$\textit{so then dot product}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\theta&=\cos^{-1}\left[\frac{u\cdot v}{|u||v|} \right] \\
&=\cos^{-1}\left[\frac{(t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j})\cdot(\textbf{i}+\textbf{j})}
{|t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j}||\textbf{i}+\textbf{j}|} \right]\\
\end{align*}

kinda maybe!:confused:
 
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Here, you just want to find those choices where the magnitude of the velocity vector is constant. :)
 
Isn't the magnitude of the velocity vector $\sqrt{2}$ which is a constant, so we don't need the the dot product?
 
karush said:
Isn't the magnitude of the velocity vector $\sqrt{2}$ which is a constant, so we don't need the the dot product?

Yes, we don't need the dot product here. Your choice is correct, but I can see at least one other choice for which the speed is constant...:)
 
I would guess $R_2$
the absense of powers > 1
 
karush said:
I would guess $R_2$
the absense of powers > 1

All you're looking for is a velocity vector whose magnitude is constant, and the second choice isn't one of those. :)
 
Not sure!
 
I was mistaken...I "eyeballed" the 4th choice and saw the argument for the sine and cosine functions was the same, and mentally declared the velocity constant when in fact it varies as the magnitude of the parameter $t$ via the chain rule. Sorry for the hasty mistake. (Bandit)
 
no prob
happens
 
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