3rd-order Energy Correction Derivation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the third-order energy correction in time-independent, non-degenerate perturbation theory. The original poster presents an equation involving wave function corrections and energy corrections, seeking guidance on their approach to finding the third-order energy correction.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the third-order energy correction but expresses uncertainty about their approach, particularly regarding the multiplication by <0|. They seek clarification on what might be missing in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



Time-independent, non-degenerate perturbation theory:

- Let |k> represent k-th order wave function correction.
- Let [itex]E^{(k)}[/itex] represent k-th order energy correction
- H' is the perturbed Hamiltonian.

Want the third order energy correction:
[tex]E^{(3)} = <1|H' - E^{(1)}|1> - 2E^{(2)}<0|1>[/tex]

Homework Equations



Equating coefficients of equal powers of the parameter:
[tex]H_0|3> + H'|2> = E^{(0)}|3> + E^{(1)}|2> + E^{(2)}|1> + E^{(3)}|0>[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried multiplying <0| on the left like when deriving the first order correction, [itex]E^{(1)}[/itex].

I get,
[tex]E^{(3)} = <0|H' - E^{(1)}|2>[/tex]

I don't know what I'm missing to proceed... I'm in the same situation with a few other similar problems. I don't see how multiplying by anything else on the left would make sense either.

Hint on what I'm missing? Thanks
 
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did I state my question poorly? :\

This is problem 8.1 from B&J's book.
 
One last bump... haven't gotten anywhere with this.
 
Recently had to solve the same problem, and since no one has commented, I figured I'd leave a hint or two for the next person who comes along.

Hint 1:
The attempted solution in the opening post is the correct way to proceed, except for a term which has been forgotten:
[tex]E^{(3)}=<0|H'-E^{(1)}\mathbb{I}|2>-E^{(2)}<0|1>[/tex]
(0)​
The secret now is to look at the equations of the coefficients for the lower orders
[tex]H_0|1>+H'|0>=E^{(0)}|1>+E^{(1)}|0>[/tex]
(1)​
and
[tex]H_0|2>+H'|1>=E^{(0)}|2>+E^{(1)}|1>+E^{(2)}|0>.[/tex]
(2)​
Using these, the third order energy correction may be expressed in the form
[tex]E^{(3)}=<1|H'-E^{(1)}\mathbb{I}|1>-2E^{(2)}\textt{Re}<0|1>.[/tex]
(3)​

Hint 2:
The "dual equation" to equation (1) may be written as
[tex]<1|H_0=E^{(0)}<1|+E^{(1)}<0|-<0|H'.[/tex]
(4)​

Multiply <1| with equation (2).
Insert (4) in the first term of this and rearrange.
Insert this in (0).
 

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