News 824 New Armored Humvees sitting in lot in Kuwait

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The discussion highlights concerns over the military's failure to utilize 824 armored Humvees sitting idle in Kuwait, despite urgent needs in Iraq. There are allegations of bureaucratic inefficiency and corporate influence, particularly regarding the exclusive production contract held by O'Gara-Hess & Eisenhardt, which has been criticized for its slow output and ties to political donations. The conversation also points to the refusal of an Ohio company to license armor technology, hindering production speed and raising questions about the government's commitment to troop safety. Additionally, there is frustration over the prioritization of corporate interests over effective military equipment, with calls for accountability in military contracts. Overall, the situation underscores a perceived disconnect between military needs and corporate practices during wartime.
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Townsend said:
Why do I get the feeling you know more about this then you're letting on?:bugeye:

I had heard about Desert Fox. I didn't know that the Iraqi fighters cut and run like that. It just struck me as typical of the Iraqi Air Force.:smile:
 
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edward said:
I had heard about Desert Fox. I didn't know that the Iraqi fighters cut and run like that. It just struck me as typical of the Iraqi Air Force.:smile:
About 15 minutes later, when two other Iraqi MIG-25s dipped below the southern "no-fly" zone's 33rd parallel, two Navy F-14 Tomcats from the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, aware of the incident that had just occurred, fired two Phoenix missiles, the Navy's only long-range air-to-air missiles. The planes were near the town of Al Kut southwest of Baghdad.
Separately, and apparently unrelated to aerial engagements, an aging Iraqi MIG-23 crashed after it ran out of fuel, Pentagon officials said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/nofly010699.htm

From what I have been told that is the only time the phoenix missile system has ever been used in combat. But who knows for sure.
 
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Danger said:
a 7mm Remington [...] would probably kill you anyhow because all of those broken ribs
If you were wearing your kevlar vest and you fired your Remington with the butt against (or in front of) your ribs, would your ribs break?
 

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