Bush has vetoed the Iraq pull out schedule bill, no big surprise, but what is the plan for Iraq? It appears that we are in this for the foreseeable future judging by the vehicles the Marines have been ordering. http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2007/April/Surgeinvehicle.htm [Broken] 6,800 in one year when we couldn't provide 2,000 up armored Humvees in two years?? Why is there such a sudden a sense of urgency that we are, and will be, buying vehicles from foreign countries? The 2008 election perhaps? http://images.google.com/imgres?img...um=1&hl=en&rls=GGIH,GGIH:2006-51,GGIH:en&sa=N These vehicles are going to be very expensive, with some costing in the $100K range. If the vehicles could guarantee troop protection I wouldn't be so opposed to it. The vehicles are mine resistant with a V shaped hulls. But the insurgents haven't been using mines. The molten copper from the IED's being currently used can penetrate this type of vehicle. Set one on fire and the guys inside will still cook and that is a lot to pay for toater ovens. The only thing I can see is that they are cheaper than helicopters, our hummers are worn out and we are going to be in Iraq until hell freezes over.