A bus, a pendulum and acceleration

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The problem involves calculating the acceleration of a bus descending a 20-degree slope while braking, with a pendulum displaced 10 degrees from vertical. The initial calculation for the x-component of acceleration was determined to be 1.73 m/s² using the equation ax = g tan(10). However, the expected total acceleration is 2.0 m/s². The correct approach involves analyzing the force components parallel and perpendicular to the incline, leading to the equation ax = g(cos(20) tan(10) - sin(20), which was still yielding an incorrect result of 1.72 m/s².

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Homework Statement



A bus is descending a uniform 20 degree slope. It brakes with constant deceleration. A pendulum moves 10 degrees away from the vertical to the downward side. Find the acceleration of the bus.

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Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution




I can deduce the x-component of the acceleration:

ax = g tan 10 = 1.73ms^-2

The expected answer is 2.0ms^-2. I can't see how to relate the twenty degree slope to the x component of the acceleration to calculate the total acceleration.

Any help or advice gratefully received...
 
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jemerlia said:
I can deduce the x-component of the acceleration:

ax = g tan 10 = 1.73ms^-2
Careful: The acceleration is not horizontal.

Do this: Analyze force components parallel and perpendicular to the incline surface.
 
Thanks - point taken - I reworked the expressions for Fy and Fx in terms of string tension:

sumFy = FTcos 10 - mg cos 20

sumFx=FT sin10 - mg sin 20

m x ax = mg cos 20. tan 10 -mg sin 20

ax =g(cos20.tan10 -sin 20)

N.B. ax is x acceleration with xy co-ordinates of the slope!

Sadly the result is still 1.72ms^-2

Perhaps there is an error with FT cos10 and FT sin 10 in the two sum of forces expressions... and perhaps elsewhere...

Help, advice gratefully received...
 
jemerlia said:
Thanks - point taken - I reworked the expressions for Fy and Fx in terms of string tension:

sumFy = FTcos 10 - mg cos 20

sumFx=FT sin10 - mg sin 20
What angle does the string make with respect to the slope?
 

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