A commonly available material exhibiting reasonable expansion/contract

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The discussion revolves around the search for a commonly available, non-toxic material that exhibits reasonable expansion and contraction when electricity is applied. Participants explore various materials and concepts, including potential applications in robotics, while considering cost and availability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a flexible material, such as fabric or rubber, that can expand or contract with direct electrical application, rather than thermal expansion.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "reasonable" and suggests piezo-crystals may not fit the criteria, while also mentioning the potential of embedding dipoles in rubber to achieve stretching in an electric field.
  • Ferrofluids are mentioned as materials that can deform in magnetic fields, which can be generated using electricity, but the stretching depends on the material's elasticity.
  • Commercially available options like "artificial muscle" or "electroactive polymer" are proposed as potential solutions.
  • A participant shares their experience with a robotics project and mentions a recent paper on twisted nylon fishing line, expressing difficulty in replicating results with available materials.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the availability of suitable materials in stores, suggesting that constructing a device from various components may be necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not seem to reach a consensus on the availability of suitable materials, with some suggesting potential options while others believe that commercially available solutions are limited or non-existent.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of "reasonable" and the specific requirements for the materials, as well as the challenges in replicating experimental results.

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I am looking for a commonly available, non toxic material (i.e. on the market today for a relatively low price) that exhibits reasonable expansion and contraction in size when electricity is applied. This could be a gas, liquid, easily workable solid but ideally it would be a fabric or flexible rubber/plastic. I know there are jury-rigged (i.e., not currently on the market and requiring further development) ways of doing this using heat, I just was wondering if there is anything currently out there that would get the job done and ideally uses electricity directly and not through thermal expansion . Thanks.
 
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Define reasonable? I'm guessing piezo-crystals are not?
What is it for?

i.e. imbedding dipoles in a block of rubber would make it stretch in an applied electric field.
Ferrofluids can be made to deform significantly in magnetic fields - which you can make with electricity.
The amount of stretching depends on the elasticity of the material - which would be an engineering problem.

For commercially available materials - try "artificial muscle" or "electroactive polymer".
 
I am working on a robotics idea I had, and I would like to keep the cost within reason
I haven’t found anything that is commonly used (and therefore, I am assuming this implies there is nothing commonly available). I have found a recently published paper in Science (February) on using twisted nylon fishing line but so far I have been unable to duplicate their results using what I had lying around. I ordered some other thread that I’m going to try, but I didn’t want to go through a lot of effort if there is something already readily available.
 
I don't think there is anything you can just go down to the store and buy - except piezo-electric devices - you'd have to construct it out of other materials.
i.e. two small magnets, a plastic tube, and a rubber band - a solenoid at each end.
 

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