A complex question which has mass, time and acceleration involved

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The problem involves a lift ascending with an upward acceleration while a bolt falls from its ceiling. Participants are tasked with calculating the distance the bolt falls, considering the lift's motion and the bolt's initial conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the need to consider the lift's upward movement while the bolt falls, suggesting the use of simultaneous equations to solve for the time and distances involved. There are attempts to clarify how to calculate the distance the lift travels during the bolt's fall.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing suggestions and approaches to tackle the problem. Some participants express uncertainty about the time the bolt will fall and the distances involved, indicating a productive exploration of the problem's complexities.

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There is mention of two distances being relevant to the problem, and participants are navigating the implications of the lift's acceleration and the bolt's initial conditions. Some participants note a lack of familiarity with simultaneous equations, which may impact their approach.

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A lift ascends with an upward acceleration of 1.25ms-2. At the instant its upward speed is 2.5ms-1, a loose bolt falls from the ceiling of the lift, 2.75m from the floor. Calculate the actual distance the bolt falls.


(The following equations are in no particular order but may be useful)

1.)t=square root of (2Xs/a)
2.) s=aXt2/2

As i attempted the solution, my teacher told me that there were two distances involved.
 
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Draw a picture. Do you know how long the bolt will fall for? Not really because you don't really know how far up the lift will move while it's falling. Sounds like your going to have to solve some simultaneous equations.
 
First you have to calculate how far did the lift bottom go from the ground. You can use the equation s= (a*t2)/2. You can calculate the time: t=v/a.
When you calculate s (that is the height for the lift bottom), add it to the lift height and you will get traveling height of the bolt.
 
nealh149 said:
Draw a picture. Do you know how long the bolt will fall for? Not really because you don't really know how far up the lift will move while it's falling. Sounds like your going to have to solve some simultaneous equations.

Thanks for the tips. Uh Oh, I seem to have forgotten what simultaneous equations
 
method_man said:
First you have to calculate how far did the lift bottom go from the ground. You can use the equation s= (a*t2)/2. You can calculate the time: t=v/a.
When you calculate s (that is the height for the lift bottom), add it to the lift height and you will get traveling height of the bolt.

Ok Thanks I'll try that
 

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