A doubt on Thomson's Experiments to determine the value of e / m_e

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Thomson's experiments to determine the value of the charge-to-mass ratio of electrons (e/me). Participants explore the methodology of Thomson's measurements and the interpretation of the results, focusing on the relationship between deflections caused by electric and magnetic fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant summarizes that Thomson made measurements on electron deflections due to electric and magnetic fields to deduce the ratio e/me.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of providing references when quoting to avoid misinterpretation and communication errors.
  • A participant points out that the observed ratio of field strengths was specific to a particular electron velocity, suggesting a nuance in the interpretation of the results.
  • There is a concern that the phrase "and deduced the ratio" could be misinterpreted as referring to the ratio of electric to magnetic field strengths (|E|/|B|) rather than the charge-to-mass ratio.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic understanding of Thomson's experiments, but there are nuances and potential misinterpretations that remain contested. The specific doubts raised by one participant are not fully clarified, leaving some uncertainty in the discussion.

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Rishabh Narula
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By carrying out accurate measurements
on the amount of deflections observed
by the electrons on the
electric field strength or
magnetic field strength,
Thomson was able to determine
the value of e/me as...
e/me = 1.75 10^11 C kg^-1

would this be a correct understanding of this para-
"This para
is just saying that he made measurements
on how much deflection is being caused by
particular electric and magnetic field strengths
and deduced the ratio from those"
 
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Hi,

Why don't you provide a reference when you quote litterally, so that a helper can look at the context ?
Saves everybody time and avoids communication errors !
Even if it says copyright NCERT or something (you link, you don't copy).

The context is more didactical than historic, but I see no discrepancies with your version.
Your 'and deduced the ratio' refers to e/m but can easily be mistaken for |E|/|B| by a reader

But your title mentions doubt. About what, specifically ?
 
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Rishabh Narula said:
"This para
is just saying that he made measurements
on how much deflection is being caused by
particular electric and magnetic field strengths
and deduced the ratio from those"
Remember that the observed ratio of field strengths was for a particular electron velocity.
 
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BvU said:
Hi,

Why don't you provide a reference when you quote litterally, so that a helper can look at the context ?
Saves everybody time and avoids communication errors !
Even if it says copyright NCERT or something (you link, you don't copy).

The context is more didactical than historic, but I see no discrepancies with your version.
Your 'and deduced the ratio' refers to e/m but can easily be mistaken for |E|/|B| by a reader

But your title mentions doubt. About what, specifically ?
sorry i mean a question
 
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