A: How far does a car traveling at 90.0 km/h take to stop?

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems: one involving the motion of a camera dropped from a helicopter and the other concerning the stopping distance of a car traveling at 90.0 km/h. The subject areas include kinematics and acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to the helicopter and camera problem, questioning the assumptions about displacement and velocity. There are also concerns about the accuracy of calculations in the car stopping distance problem, particularly regarding the use of formulas and the interpretation of results.

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Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulas to use, but there is no explicit consensus on the final answers.

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Participants express uncertainty about the signs used in their calculations and the implications of their results. There is a sense of urgency from one participant regarding the need to understand the problems for an assignment.

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7.Q: "Nancy was riding in a helicopter which was rising at 4.0 m/s when she dropped her camera out. After 2.0 s how far apart were the camera and the helicopter?"
A: This isn't an acceleration question is it? Just velocity?
d=vt = (4.0m/s)(2.0s) = 8.0m

8.Q: "A certain car tire can accelerate a car to a stop at a maximum rate of -11.2 m/s^2".
A driver going at 90.0 km/h sees a hole 30.0m ahead and hits the brakes. How far does it take the car to stop? Does the car hit the hole? Assume a reaction time of zero seconds."
A: :confused:
a = -11.2 m/s^2
v = 90.0 km/h = 24.993 m/s = 25.0 m/s

t=v/a = 25.0m/s / -11.2 m/s^2 = 36.2s

d=vt = 25.0m/s / (36.2s) = 0.691 m

"The car stops 0.691 m later, so no it does not hit the hole." Is this correct?
 
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For number 7, yes it is an acceleration problem...

You got the distance the helicopter traveled in 2.0s. So the helicopter has a vertical displacement of 8.0m from the place where the camera is dropped...

But what is the camera's displacement? The camera also moves.

For number 8,

you seem to be doing something wrong with your calculations... 25/11.2 is not 36.2

And why are you dividing instead of multiplying when you calculate d = vt ?
 
Nancy's dropped camera REvised

okay, so first I went:
d=vt =4m/s(2s)
= 8m.
So 8m is the distance that the helicopter rised in 2 secs, from the time the camera was dropped.

Then I look for the final velocity of the camera, because I will need it in a formula.
Vf = 4m/s + (-9.81m/s^2 X 2sec)
Vf = 4 m/s + (-19.62 m/s)
Vf = -15.62 m/s a formula for distance:
d = (Vf - Vi)/2a
= (-15.62 m/s - 4m/s) / 2(-9.81m/s^2)
= -19.62 m.s^2/-19.62m/s^s
= 1 m

So the Camera went down 1 m from where Nancy dropped it. Thus, the helicopter and the camera are 9 m apart.
Is this right?
I think negatives and positives (if I didn't get them right) are going to screw up my answer big time.
 
Someone please answer my question. I really need it... it is the last question on my assignment and I need to understand it... thnks
 
In this part:

"d = (Vf - Vi)/2a
= (-15.62 m/s - 4m/s) / 2(-9.81m/s^2)
= -19.62 m.s^2/-19.62m/s^s
= 1 m"

You need d = (Vf^2 - Vi^2)/2a

which gives d = -11.62

The minus sign indicates the camera went down... if there was no minus sign, then the camera went up (which could definitely have been a possibility if they chose a different time instead of 2s).

So the answer is 8 + 11.62 = 19.62m

Another way to look at it... the position of the helicopter is 1m (taking the start point as 0m)

The position of the camera is -11.62m

The displacement from the helicopter to the camera is position of helicopter - position of camera

8 - (-11.62) = 19.62m (that way, the minus signs are taken care of)

You could have also calculated the position of the camera with:

d = v1*t + (1/2)at^2

d = 4*2 + (1/2)(-9.81)*2^2 = -11.62m (same answer as before).

anyway, your answer is 19.62m.
 
cherryrocket said:
So the Camera went down 1 m from where Nancy dropped it. Thus, the helicopter and the camera are 9 m apart.
Is this right?
I think negatives and positives (if I didn't get them right) are going to screw up my answer big time.

For this question, another way to 'verify' your answer is to think about it. The amount the helicopter has risen is correct, and it makes sense, however the idea that a camera would have only fallen 1 m in two seconds, hmmm, just doesn't ring true. I know you can't often use this type of thinking, but for this particular problem it is useful.
 
Thanks everyone for your help!
 

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