Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Homework Help: A hydrogen atom in a weak time-dependent perturbation

  1. Jan 16, 2008 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A hydrogen atom, which is in its ground state 1s (i.e. [tex]\|1,0,0\rangle[/tex]), is put into a weak time-dependent external electric field, which points into the z direction:
    [tex]\boldsymbol{E}(t,\boldsymbol{r}) = \frac{C\hat{\text{\boldsymbol{e}}}_{z}}{t^{2}+\tau^{2}}[/tex], where C and [tex]\tau > 0[/tex] are constants. This gives rise to a perturbation potential [tex]V(t) = C\frac{e\hat{z}}{t^{2}+\tau^{2}}[/tex], where e denotes the electron charge.

    (a) Using lowest-order time-dependent perturbation theory, find the selection rules for transitions from the ground state, i.e. find out which final state values for the quantum numbers n, l and m are possible in transitions from the ground state.

    (b) Calculate the probability of transition from the ground state 1s to to the state 2p during an infinitely long period of time, setting [tex]t_{0}\rightarrow -\infty[/tex] and [tex]t\rightarrow\infty[/tex].

    2. Relevant equations
    This is useful, isn't it?
    [tex]P_{fi}(t,t_{0})\equiv |\langle\phi_{f}|\psi(t)\rangle|^{2}\approx \frac{1}{\hbar^{2}}\left|\int_{t_{0}}^{t}\text{d}t_{1}\langle\phi_{f}|V_{S}(t_{1})|\phi_{i}\rangle \text{e}^{\text{i}(E_{f}-E_{i})t_{1}/\hbar}\right|^{2}.[/tex]

    3. The attempt at a solution

    (b) I probably should use the equation given in the section "2. Relevant equations" and "sandwich" perturbation potential between the states [tex]\langle 2,1,m|[/tex] and [tex]|1,0,0\rangle[/tex], shouldn't I? What m-value should I use?

    Any hints to (a)?
  2. jcsd
  3. Jan 16, 2008 #2


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    what kind of spherical tensor is z? What is its rank?
    Then you will get your selection rules, so you know what m values you should use for the matrix elements (i.e the set if final states that can be reached)

    You might want to look in the chapter of tensor operators in your textbook.

    Or you can write z as a spherical harmnonics and use the wave functions for the hydrogen-states (that is a radial part times a spherical harmonic) and use some well known spherical harmonics identities.

    EDIT: You might also use parity relations for the Spherical harmonics, if you are not allowed to use collection of formulas for spherical harmonics.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2008
  4. Jan 18, 2008 #3


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    How's it going?
  5. Jan 19, 2008 #4
    Thanks for your reply!

    I think that [tex]z = r_{0} = r\cos (\theta)[/tex]. Right?

    I also think that [tex]\langle 2,1,m|r_{0}|1,0,0\rangle = \sqrt{\frac{4\pi}{3}}\langle 2,1|r_{0}|1,0\rangle\langle 1,m|Y_{10}(\theta ,\phi)|0,0\rangle[/tex] Right?

    The radial part is easy to calculate: [tex]\langle 2,1|r_{0}|1,0\rangle = \int_{0}^{\infty}r^{3}R^{*}_{21}(r)R_{10}(r)\,\text{d}r = ...[/tex] Right?

    The angular part is: [tex]\langle 1,m|Y_{10}(\theta ,\phi)|0,0\rangle = \sqrt{\frac{3(2*0+1)}{4\pi (2*1+1)}}\langle 0,1;0,0|1,0\rangle\langle 0,1;0,0|1,m\rangle[/tex] Right?

    The C-G coefficients [tex]\langle 0,1;0,0|1,m\rangle[/tex] vanish unless [tex]m=0+0=0[/tex] and [tex]0-1\leq 0 \leq 0+1[/tex] or [tex]\Delta m = m-0 = 1,0,-1[/tex] and [tex]\Delta l = 1-0=1[/tex] Hmm. Right?

    PS. Sorry, because my reply is so late. I was somewhat busy.
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2008
  6. Jan 19, 2008 #5


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    You have some errors that you need to fix.

    [tex] z = r\cdot \cos \theta [/tex]

    and the "selection" rules from CG are:
    [tex] m = m_1 + m_2 [/tex]
    [tex] |j_1 - j_2| \leq j \leq j_1 + j_2 [/tex]

    so z is essential [tex] r \cdot Y_{l=1}^{m=0} [/tex], which is a spherical tensor of rank (k) = 1, with q = 0
    The so called m-selection rule is:
    [tex] <\alpha , j_1,m_1 |T^{(k)}_{m}|\beta , j_2, m_2> = 0[/tex] ; unless m_1 = q + m_2

    So now you know which final state your pertubation can take the initial state (the ground state in this case).

    Then you just evaluate the integrals, you can look up explicit wave functions for the hydrogen atoms in your textbook and just do the math, straighforward but lenghty. Remember to use spherical coordinates when you integrate.
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2008
Share this great discussion with others via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook